PT-141

Therapeutic Efforts Pharmaceutical
#41

Because I know MY body better then anyone else, that’s why.

Because in the case of this drug, it acts on what ever is in the brain to induce feelings of desire. Well, I can tell that MY brain systems that control that, are burned out, and are not working the way they should. So while a normal person can take the recommended dose and get off, we wouldn’t because the mechanisms that control that “feeling” are just not working or gone, hence if anything, we would need to take more. Just like guys that take super doses of T just to feel normal because of reduced androgen sensitivity.

I have proof. The way it made me feel when I took “half” the recommended dosage the first time. I already explained that. I don’t need to have a redo to satisfy your curiosity.

I didn’t like the way it made me feel the first time, and I’m not going to like the way it makes me feel at an 1/8 of the dose. I’ll just feel an 1/8 as crappy. What do you have to lose by getting some yourself and being your own guinea pig? You have a computer and a credit card, give it a whirl if your so hard up about it.

#42

I’m not going to be able to try it again until the end of the month, but I’m really not game for trying it again. I know how it works and I know 1/8 the dose will just give me 1/8 the nausea and weird feelings and 1/8 of the erection. Overall, it was a really crappy and disappointing experience and I can’t blame cdnuts for not wanting to try it again.

I guess if only to further research I’ll try a 1/8th dose, but you’ll all have to wait 2 week because I’m traveling now.

#43

Thanks Joetz.

I would like to try but unfortunately I do not have an address and have a flight out of the country next week where I’ll be remaining until April/May.

I was suggesting/requesting because you already have it and I can’t right now. Nobody is forcing you but the convictions it won’t work are without logical backing.

Follow this: I have a 12 pack of beer. I have one beer and start to feel horny and get an erection. 2 beers = 2x effect. Therefore 12 beers = top effect!

But somehow before I get to 12 beers I start to feel sick, turn red, wish I hadn’t started drinking, and libido goes to 0.

Conclusion: more does not necessarily = better. And if you overdosed from what your system was able to handle you would not even know it without a second attempt at a lower dose.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to have “proof” on a comparative assay if you have only ran the experiment 1 time.

#44

Really? That’s your basis? lol. No where near the reality of the situation. Horrible analogy.

See my androgen replacement analogy. Also, who overdosed? As I already mentioned I took HALF the dose. Nobody overdosed.

I have proof enough for ME. That’s all that matters. I’m not a scientist writing a paper or tying to prove some theory to his colleagues. Go ahead and try it, see for yourself.

#45

Half the dose could have been too much, that was the point of the ENTIRE question…

The analogy is sound. This isn’t an androgen. Both alcohol and PT-141 are chemical substances that affect libido and arousal. Both are chemicals put into the body to get these effects. Both have adverse affects if too much is taken. The analogy was about the RELATIVITY of dosing. This is why I could handle 10 beers back in the day and now cannot handle 1/20 of this…

No point in continuing, you obviously are not interested.

#46

Alright, the experiment is over. I took a 1/8th dose yesterday.
These were my results:
1/8 the weird light headedness
1/8 the flushing feeling
1/8 the buzzy sensations

The erection I got came 9 hours after the injection and it didn’t last as long as it did on the higher doses and wasn’t quite as solid.

I injected at 4:00 PM and all of this hit me at one in the morning. I tried to go to sleep and had some pretty weird dreams, which is surprising because I usually don’t have dreams.

Libido during the whole experience was a big ZERO. There is something weird about the erection this stuff gives you. It’s an artificial, soulless and completely unnatural feeling. I felt like there was a huge part of me missing. The passion wasn’t there, my heart wasn’t into what was going on with my body. Could I have had sex? Sure I could have, but it would have been very unsatisfying. I guess it’s something that has to be experienced to really understand.

#47

where could I pick some up? This maybe a good short term solution if it helps with erections.

#48

PM me and I’ll give you the info.

#49

Thank you Joetz…

So no libido improvement…wonder if it works on anyone or it’s just marketing…

Just out of curiousity when was the last time you had sexual contact involving more than yourself? Sometimes I think that doing something sexual will improve libido, only works half the time :frowning:

#50

No libido improvement at all. If anything I felt worse with this stuff.

As for having a girl in my bed while I was injecting pt-141, well I don’t think it would have changed anything. When your libido is completely destroyed you just know. It’s not really something that needs a test to prove. Something inside me is broken really badly and it’s something I am aware of every second of every day of my life. I feel like a shadow of my former self. It’s like a bomb went off inside me and destroyed my soul.

No crazy blood rush to my unit is going to fix what’s going on with us. We just need to hang in there for the “next big thing”