Nasal administration has been determined to be a much less effective route over subcutaneous injection administration. There’s no telling how much of a drug one administers in a nasal spray form vs. an injection form.
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Your username is the same as the substance being discussed?
I wasn’t saying one was better than the other, just that he injected it, and I will inhale it.
There have been limited reports of success with nasal administration so given that is the case it makes sense to try using it that way first however if you have no success that way then it may be worth giving it a try via subcutaneous administration.
Do know that the injections are performed in the same manner as diabetics administer themselves insulin (another peptide hormone).
Also nasal administration will tend to be more expensive because it will take quite a bit more of the drug (if it does indeed work for you that way) than injections for equivalent efficacy.
You say ‘inhale’ it as though you’re going to get some benefit from the drug via your lungs but this isn’t the case. The drug enters into one’s system via nasal passages (much like the decongestant Afrin).
No, I say inhale, because I’m going to snort it up my nose, the way it is supposed to be used.
It seems to me that you are just here to try and sell product. You should probably go somewhere else.
If you’re talking about “snorting” it (like cocaine for example) then one is inclined to wonder if you’d read the following article: mensjournal.com/the-libido-drug wherein the journalist wrote of such an experience. Snorting in this fashion is going to be the least efficacious route of drug administration with these peptides and anyone using them in this way will just be throwing money away.
Actually no, I do not sell any of these peptides. In terms of the optimal route of administration, you needn’t take my word about it, see what the company that has developed the drug says about it themselves:
palatin.com/news/news.asp?param=221
Cheers
Again, wrong. I’m going to mix the shit up, put it in the nasal inhaler, and shoot it up my nose, inhaling the fine mist. I’m not going to snort the dry powder. Who would do that?
And, why is your user name “melatonan.” and why do you have links taking people to a webpage about the compound. You seem to be ducking that question.
Do you have propecia related issues? if not, you’re at the wrong place.
I’m the dude who tried the PT 141. I don’t see why inhaling is going to work any better than injecting. The reason why I injected was because it’s supposed to be much more effective.
Go ahead and give it a shot. I wish you the best of luck. For me it just made me feel sick for several hours and then gave me an erection that was almost scary. But not once did I have even one iota of aroused feelings. Zero. Maybe even less than normal because of the nausea and flushed feelings that came with everything.
My PT 141 is sitting in my refrigerator and I don’t ever plan on using it again. An erection that I have no desire to use is possibly even more annoying than being impotent.
I hope you have different results than I did.
Again, I NEVER said that injecting didn’t work better then inhaling. I don’t know where everyone keeps getting this from. READ.
Seeing as I have some semblence of a libido, albeit very small, and my body is thoroughly cleaned out, all of my other symptoms have been elminated, so on and so forth, MAYBE I will be more responsive to it. That’s all I’m saying. That’s it.
Or, maybe I won’t. We all see people respond to different things and we all see people who respond to nothing. I’m going to give it a shot and see what happens. If it does what you said it did to you, then I will be pleased and will keep it on hand to “enhance” my sexual encounters.
When you did it, how long until your “titanium” erection?
It took around 3 hours for the erection, but I was feeling pretty sick for those 3 hours. Overall not worth it for me, but ymmv
Sounds like you might have administered yourself too much of the drug. Best game plan is to start out with small dosages and slowly ramp up to find a ‘sweet spot’ that is effective for your purposes while limiting any side effects that would detract from that.
So use a little less and have less nausea, but also less of an erection? My gripe with PT 141 isn’t really the nausea, the lobster skin tone, and the overall light headed weird feelings prior to the erection. My beef is that it doesn’t do a damn thing for libido/desire. In fact, I think it made my libido even worse, if possible. The drug is being promoted as somehow different than the ED drugs because it’s supposed to work on whatever it is in the brain that increases desire…and it doesn’t. For me it was a huge disappointment, but if other forum members want to try it, maybe they will have a different result.
Well another alternative that one in your position may want to consider (if there is still a need) may be melanotan II (the original peptide that PT-141 was derived from). It sounds like you had a pretty negative experience. It makes one wonder if it was the drug or perhaps just a poor quality batch that you had? Bremelanotide was reported to positively enhance libido in both men and women in trials of it. Obviously for women there is no erection so unlike for men it is doubtful that they’d ever confuse mechanical changes for libido changes. Libido enhancement for a female subject was reported in this video youtube.com/watch?v=0g6QXkE68io about melanotan II as well in phase I & II human trials in men.
Not to say that I’m not interested in this possibility, but why do we have a pharma rep promoting another drug here?? Or is Melatonan just another concerned citizen?
I was wondering the same thing. He has not answered me several times about whether he has fin related side effects at all…I doubt he does.
I am not a pharma rep. Melanotan II is not a drug being developed by any pharmaceutical company anywhere. If I were a rep. for Palatin which is developing bremelanotide would I be talking about melanotan II as I have? I happen to be very informed about melanocortin peptides and am happy to share my knowledge in places where individuals are discussing this class of peptide hormones.
Still dodging the question. DO YOU HAVE ANY PROPECIA SIDES?
Not quite sure what the pertinence is of this question. If I am discussing topics related to a medical issue that I am experiencing I don’t limit myself to only discussing the topics with others who are also experiencing the issue. I have no desire to annoy you as it appears I am doing. I saw a topic of discussion about which I am informed and wished to help inform others about the topic. With that I will exit this discussion.
May you be successful in overcoming the issue(s) that you may find yourself plagued with.
The trials were done on normal people. Normal people get aroused pretty easy when exposed to the right stimuli. Normal people have normal wiring. The problem we have is that we almost never FEEL aroused because of the damage finasteride has done to our bodies. This drug is great for triggering whatever it is to enhance bloodflow to the genitalia. As far as that goes, it’s almost magical.
Our dysfunction is more psychogenic in nature. And if you read forums of people who have tried this drug who have similar symptoms, it has a very poor success rate.
Well Joetz, you were right about the stuff. I happend to get it yesterday. Depsite inhaling it like I was going to do, I realized I still have insulin needles from when I was giving myself B12 shots when I was at my worst, before raw and fasting. So, injected it but at half the recommended dose of 1mg. I figured also if I did have a good reaction to it, I could get 20 doses out of one $40 bottle as opposed ot one or two doses inhaling it.
Anyway, shot it, and started feeling really hot and buzzing like feelings. I did have the urge for sex, but is somehow felt fake, or synthetic, I guess cause it was. I really didn’t like the feeling. It did give me a great hard on though, like you mentioned. If I could get the boner without the fake buzzy, flushed feeling, I would continue to use it.
I also started makeing myself anxious by messing with myself again using chemicals. I just thought,“haven’t you learned enough already.” Nothing good can come from altering yourself like that.
So, all in all:
Great hard on
Lasts a day and a half
But:
Makes you feel weird
raises blood pressure, which causes prolonged flushing
makes you buzzy internally
Mild stomache upset
I won’t be taking it again. I’m glad I only took a half dose too.
cdnutz maybe you should try 1/8 dose? It could be that we are oversensitive to it like everything else and therefore need much less… I would try but I don’t have enough time to order it before I leave the country again…