Protodioscin..5AR? DHT?

Therapeutic Efforts Supplements & Lifestyle
#1

I came across a supplement this BARLOWE’S TRIBULUS WITH 40% PROTODIOSCIN.

Im sure all of you know about this compound but if not Protodioscin can increase DHT and 5AR I believe as well.

Has anyone messed with this stuff before and had good results? I am merely asking because I don’t want to take anything and possibly make me worse or fuck up my system
It seems logical that this could help but you never know with this god damned condition. It’s completely variable as to what will or will not work.
I know people have been talking about asparagus and the same compound mentioned above. green or white asparagus?
Can anyone speak to the validity of this Please?
Im pleading for any help you can offer.
Thank you men

#2

Do a search for tribulus. Some got some minor benefits, some got none, one claimed recovery and one crashed even harder. I’ve got some here but I’m wary of it.

#3

well the main this is the high protodioscin. In other words,
you have the plant and certain parts do certain things. some parts probably raise testosterone only which will increase estrogen in turn.
HOWEVER, companies are too cheap to pay for what will INCREASE DHT which is the Protodioscin.
so what you have is an incomplete supplement that just raises estrogen.
Perhaps if it contained the dht boosting properties like it should maybe it will help us. I think 40% protodiscin is the highest available by that company and actually provides a certificate of analysis that proves the contents of the bottle.

#4

40% protodioscin is good…sure.

However:

When my body is in a hormonally insensitive state (after beating off a ton and flooding my system with E and prolactin, etc), I don’t respond well to anything. After abstaining from masturbating for a while and treating my body well otherwise, I no longer experience any genital pain or weird feelings from hormonal stimuli (which actually includes masturbation itself). So I work up a threshold. In August, I reestablished feeling in my gonads and boylemmetellya, my skin was oilier, my body odor smelled more manly, my boners were harder…BUT I BEAT OFF SO MUCH THAT I DAMN NEAR LOST ALL OF IT.

#5

Man I’ve seen you on CD’s threads, you -knew- that was a bad idea. You were doing damned well though, you’ll get that back quicker this time around I know it.

#6

im getting fed up with thinking about this supplement and the asparagus treatement.
I’m just fearful of it making me worse protentially or my body not responding to it. either way is not good.
but eventually I will I hope. I feel like it could really help me maybe.
I also feel EVERYONE on here should fork over the cash and try trib with high protodioscin.
im even wary of trying zinc too

#7

If you take Tribulus you need an AI, the “Crashing,” that people talk about here is Estrogen, there is no mysterious “crash,” it is called estrogen dominance, it is fully reversible with Aromasin 25mg every 8 hours (if you need more). Tribulus increases testosterone, we do not produce enough DHT to regulate the estrogen that our bodies seem to create out of most of the testosterone. If you learn to control your estrogen, then you will be able to take these things and stop with the constant “crash” bs.
I have been through 24 horrible PFS crashes, now I know what they are and how to control them, it is just estrogen, nothing more, nothing less, and it can be reversed. Nothing is strong enough but Aromasin, I never tried Letrazole, but Aromasin seems to be the safest and most logical.

#8

Thanks interesting JustQuitDut. I did not know that at all.
I thought a “crash” was you receptors getting shot and fucked up or something.
My estrogen is in normal range according to my labs. right in the middle.
I doubt if I take a quality trib supplement that aids with dht that it would increase my estrogen so much to the point of dominance.
What do you think,man?

#9

Also my DHT results were 53 or 58 and I think the ceiling on that rage was 80 I believe with a floor of 30 I wanna say.
Is that normal?

#10

I would be wary of trying an AI. Remember what happened last time you took a drug to suppress one of the body’s natural hormone regulating enzymes.

Look at this recent thread for some natural estrogen reducing ideas…
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