@Ozeph
You sure you react bad to omega3? Iam supplementing 3g (EPA/DHA combined) and Iam wondering if I have a bad response to them because its likely.
Yes I am. I bought the bottle, took it 3 days, felt bad about it and stopped. Then I was better.
Some people like to do blood test and have a specialist tell them if they’re doing good or not. It has it’s virtues but it’s also costly and takes time.
I just take a supplement, wait a few days and see how I feel. I’ve discovered new ways of feeling weird I never felt before ! If a supplement makes me feel bad or weird in a bad way, it’s out. If I don’t feel any change I may keep it and if I feel better, I definitely do keep it. However, if it feels too good (as in too good to be true) I will reduce it because there’s a chance of overreaching the state of balance and falling on the other side.
1 Like
I’ve thought this quite a bit lately. I wonder how many of the “symptoms have improved” threads are simply people boosting their Sex Drive/mood/whatever issue they had, which would have happened due to what they were taking regardless of PFS.
i.e. maybe if they had never taken fin but they took all these amino acids worked out, etc. they would go from their normal 100% to 130%. Now, due to fin, their baseline is 50%, so maybe the same thing boosts people to 80% for the same reason it would have boosted them anyways
That isn’t to say it’s really “curing” PFS, but I guess if it feels better in the end, improvement is what really matters
Finally no classified protocols?
nope.
can you take the survey and help us out so we can find a protocol to beat it?
2 Likes
There should be a “My personal recovery protocol” section on this site
Where people break down exactly what they did to recover with brands and portions per day/week, morning or night
1 Like
Quite a number of names without survey completion ticks here.
Fill out the survey now and read about “protocols” later, please.
8 Likes
Oh boy! You are loading up excessively with too much chemicals man! Bear in mind, me and another guy got fucked from Vit K2, so be careful with it!
2 Likes
I stopped since then after hearing it crashed people.
1 Like
Yeah, good choice man. I am still amazed how we can crash so easily from stuff that would not do any harm to a healthy person. Seems to be our bodies are put in constant alert mode and we are so fragile because of that. We have low resistance to stress, dunno if taking supplement is kind of stressing the body too, probably thats why we crash and worsen sometimes by taking stuff…
1 Like
Yes. This is one my carnivore / ketogenic diet is basically an elimination diet. I eat around 12 things only, I tested them.
You’d be surprised how much inflammation comes from grains and how pfs worsen that condition.
1 Like
Can you share what foods are you eating please?
Thanks
Let’s see. From the largest amount to the smallest:
Beef
Romaine lettuce
Ghee
Coconut milk
MCT oil from coconut oil
Extra Virgin Olive oil
Apple cider vinegar
Macadamias
inulin (a dietary fiber)
Coffee
salt
Stevia (a natural 0 carbs sweetener)
Sometime I change the beef for chicken or pork, or japanese mackerel
Once in a while (every 3-5 days), when I feel I need carbs, I will have a single cracker with macadamia butter and the most natural rasberry jam I could find. Or I would make oatmeal with 30 gr of dry oatmeal.
I found that if I’m having carbs, I don’t sleep as well. But if I do just a little, I feel better overall in the day time.
Note: Olive oil, apple cider vinegar and inulin are new addition, less than a week old. I may have to remove them.
1 Like
I am drinking 1tsp apple cider vinegar with water every morning it does help for me. Thanks for the list man 
2 Likes
I think this will depend on if your problems are hormonal or if another mechanism is affecting, I know if I can get my T levels to around 450 my wood is good… but right now my levels have lowered a bit after being on TRT.
1 Like
How is it we react so bad to supplements.
People says they “crash” on supplement, but probably by crash taking a supplement (not finasteride) they actually mean DRUG HYPERSENSIBILITY.
Did you notice a difference using slow introduction of a supplement?
How many times per week you begin to take them? Twice a week? each other day?
I start with a low dose everyday and increase the dose. If at some point I increasingly feel bad, I stop the supplement. Or I would stop when I start feeling bad. It’s best to do it one supplement at a time so as to know which one does bad.
Many supplements won’t make a noticeable difference, some do in a few days.
IMO, some people actually crash as in having the same epigenetic changes as they had in their initial crash being accentuated but the supplement. If the body reacted to too much androgen and silenced the AR (an epigenetic change) then maybe taking phytoandrogens would silence further the AR or at least put the hormones in disarray…
In my case, it was the phytoestrogen in soy that made me react badly.
Which percentage of the supplements you tried were you able to tolerate?
How many of the total approach had to be discarted due intolerance?
3 pillars of recovery:
1.Reduce Inflammation and immune system (no gluten, fasting low carb, certain supplements)
-
pro androgens (exercise, herbs, steroids)
-
Anti androgens (herbs/supplements) sparingly
Putting that together and performing it with low stress, etc. is easier said than done, but just about every recovery thread follows those three things
1 Like