RANGES:
Testosterone Total: 308 (250-1100 ng/dl)
Free Testosterone: 97.5 (35 - 155)
% Free testosterone 3.17% (1.1% - 2.8%)
PSA = .5
This was taken about a year ago before i went on propecia,
Recently i took the same tests (about 8 months off propecia)
will compare once they come back.
BTW wasn’t my Testosterone low even tho i wasn’t on pro yet???
Out of curiosity, why did you get these tests done before you went on Propecia? I wish I knew to get these tests done before I went on that shit.
Yes that is a low TOTAL T level, however some men can get by with low total T if their FREE T is high.
Looks like your % of Free T is off the charts, which might have been part of the reason your Total T wasn’t effecting you in a negative way.
Also, due to the pulsatile nature of LH, it is best to get pooled blood results collected over a period of time (ie, 24 hrs) to get a clearer picture of Testosterone levels… one bloodtest is simply a snapshot in time and T levels could have been in flux at that moment.
What time were these tests taken? How were you before Finasteride – super horny? No ED? Full of energy etc?
Yes they were Pre Propecia and hair falling out excessively.
i had a sex drive but it wasn’t anything to rave about.
I was working out at the time.
i also had cystic body acne (ouch) around that time frame
thats why i went to the doc in the first place and probably was the reason why he ran the blood tests and then gave me Propecia.
Time they were taken around 4:00pm about a year ago
this the reason for the acne >??
Bloodwork should be taken before 10am as T levels are highest in the morning and decrease throughout the day.
Because you took your test at 4pm, you have a skewed result which does not show your highest levels, unfortunately.
razorxtr,
Did you get your blood tests done? I would like to compare your pre and post propecia values.
But youre going to have to get the blood tests done at the same time of the day. So the blood test you recetly had done needs to be at the same time as the one you got pre-propecia.
Off propecia for about 8 months when i took these tests. I am 22 Years old
Day saliva Test: Range:
Free Testerone: 55pg/ml Puts me in the 31-40yr old range
Estradiol: 10 Range: 1-3pg/ml for male my age.
DHT 36pg/ml 22-72pg/ml
Androstenedione 297pg/ml Normal
The Estradiol is showing as for my age i should be in the 1-3 and im more than triple that.
I also took a cortisol saliva test and when i get those results i will post them here. May the low cortisol have an impact on the testosterone and other hormones? Or others on cortisol?
How would i get the estradiol down?
I was given Apple pectin to bring down the estraidol sounds good?
Not sure how reliable saliva tests are but yea, Estrogen looks high.
Never heard of Apple pectin, I doubt it will do anything for your Estogen levels. Who is prescribing you this stuff? You should try DIM supplements in the meantime if you want to try and bring down E2 naturally. That and lots of cardio to shed bodyfat.
If I were you I’d get a full panel of bloodwork done AGAIN, before 10am, so you can get a true sense of what’s going on.
where do i get DIM supplements Is there another name for them???
Are they over the counter?
You can get DIM (Diindolylmethane) at any health food store.
More info:
ok thanks i will pick them up tomorrow.
Is there any general dose i should be looking into??? Based on results here?
Im about a 180lbs male.
BTW can there be a link between low cortisol and high estradiol ??
Not sure if DIM will work very well, if at all, compared to a drug… don’t expect miracles. Probably best to take standard doseage on the bottle.
Dunno about relation between Cortisol and Estradiol, do some Googling and see what you can find…
Hey i picked up DIM and started taking it in hopes of lowering my Estradiol
My Cortisol tests came back ::
[b]
(Time) (Reference range)
7 - 8 am 13-24nM
8 - ME
11:00 - Noon 5-10nM
2 - ME
4-5PM 3-8nM
4 - ME
11:00-Midnight 1-4nM
1 - ME
[/b]
Total Cortisol Burden: 23-42
15 - ME
My Cortisol-DHEA Correlation lands in the
[b]Maladapted Phase 1
DHEA 3-10ng/ml
3 - ME
[/b]
Whats this mean???
I need to raise my cortisol especially in the morning.
I suspect this will also raise my testosterone and Thyroid levels as well.
Amy Advice??
Ok got a new test - 22 male
Estraidol 45 pg/ml Range 0-53 pg/ml
Can anyone tell me how that translates to what i had earlier? i had a 10pg/ml earlier in my test *although it was taken at a different lab
how the hell do i get up to 45???
I thought 10 what i had was high.
You cant compare blood tests to saliva tests. You canot even compare blood tested at one lab to another blood test drawn at a different lab.
Its because labs have diff calibration of their equipment. Therefor all labs provide ranges wich only apply for their tests!
U might have a testosterone reading of 400 at one lab and 600 at another lab. However when comparing those to the ranges the labs provide u with u will find you are at about the same % spot between the low and top values.
As for testing T i dont think saliva testing is even considered to be valueble at all so probably not your first estrogen reading either.
Your latest test still show you somewhat high in e2. I would think a hormone specialist would say a healthy level for your age would be less than 30 if not lower. I think most docs would say your level is rather high but perhaps not alarmingly so.
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Im not sure i follow why the second result should be more healthy, you mean because of the higher lh value? i dont think this is true if thats what u mean. Ppl on Testosterone gels or shots have almost no lh at all and they get by just fine, granted they might feel better with lh aswell as indicated by chrislers hcg protocall but they dont have our problems even with lh far below ours.
Im not trying to get you down or anything im just trying to point out that its very hard to diagnose this shit and that drawing conclusions based upon how u feel at a given moment of testing most likely is completely useless and could potentially be very missleading.
Hope u feel better soon with whatever treatment u try.