Please Help - Suggestions - Urology!

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#1

I am going to a second urologist tomorrow who specilizes in impotence Dr. David Dangerfield baysideurology.com.au/
Mr David Dangerfield

Mr David Dangerfield, MB., BS(Qld), FRACS(Urol)

Areas of Specialty

Prostate cancer
Kidney stone management
Uro-oncolgy inc. kidney,bladder &testicular cancer
Advanced Laparoscopic Surgery
Voiding dysfunction
Vasectomy
Erectile Dysfunction

As the first Urologist looked at me as if I was insane.

So any polite way , of convincing a doctor that a pill which is listed to subside and not in my system caused this problem?

Penis looks so unhealthy (Sorry to be to detailed) Though i’m starting to get very concerned and it’s mentally affecting me.

Every Doctor is not understanding or willing to connect with me.

Please, please , please , please can someone shed my light.

The more information I get the more I can help you guys in getting a result. Let’s work together!!

Propecia shiz
(Day 18 off propecia)
Symptoms remaining
Dry Skin
Unhealthy penis
No circulation
Erectile Dysfunction
Shrinkage

#2

i had bad luck with my urologist … told me i needed anti depressants and that he prescribed proscar all the time for bph and no one ever had these issues … only after he saw my blood work did he start to believe … but he told me there was nothing he could unfortunately

just sit tight bud, be patient and healthy and do not stress your system, you stand a good chance, try to relaxe, we r here 4 u

#3

Utilize the information, studies and media reports available to you.

Print off articles from main Propeciahelp.com site, Merck label updates about persistent side effects, Dr. Irwig and Dr. Traish’s papers, and review the Finasteride Studies section: viewforum.php?f=8

You’ll need evidence to support your case, and these materials can help.

#4

Thanks Guys appreciate it! Just starting to worry have the symptoms of low testoterone “IMPOSSILBLE, your a healthy looking fit male…It’s still in range”. I’m sure the Dr is going to be offended if i try to prove him wrong other wise. I do beleive I can control the mental sides “brain fog” etc no problems at all. It’s just the sheer fustration that the Dr’s can’t see the problems it’s caused. My man hood’s at stake at 21. I’ve started the cialis 5mg and no luck -_-’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’.

Scariest thing so far is the change in vein structure on the penis. As in two veins on side are darket smaller veins stand out and central vein is no longer protruding like it used tosigh.

Doing my best! If anyone can shed some light please do!

Day 18 of Hell!

#5

in my opinion, just be prepared that the urologist most likely will not have any real solution, whatsoever, if you in fact have a true case of pfs, also, some things have made people worse from what i understand … just try to take care of yourself and hope your system will become normal soon

#6

Should start a fund for research into time travel might have more luck convincing people it’s possible.

Most common call from doctors “the minds a powerful tool, you might just have anxiety, maybe you need anti-depressants”. Are you fucking retarded? i’m showing all the symptoms of hypogondism or low testosterone except bitch tits. Rah, Rah, Rah! End of rant.

Anyway i’ll keep you guys posted on my situation, cheers for the support and putting up with my endless posts! I suppose there’s no quick fix that we are all searching for, fingers crossed!

#7

Well one of the side effects IS anxiety. I had it pretty bad the first 6-7 months after I came off… Yes it took twice as long as I was on the drug just for that one side effect to lessen. Klonopin helped with this… But after trying minipress yesterday I think that may even help the anxiety side effect.

#8

What’s causing the anxiety though is the problem down there, i’m becoming anxious because i’m not getting better things are declining and stupid doctor doesn’t want to understand anything that’s not text book. Blows my mind!

#9

Bottom line is they’re defensive. They’ve been prescribing finasteride in various forms since Proscar in '92, they hobnob with Merck reps that come in to sell/market their drugs weekly…and on top of that most of what M.D.'s do is apply accepted treatments to KNOWN medical conditions/diseases. This is contrary to what they “know” and makes them look stupid, so few are inclined to try to take it seriously.

#10

^ what he said.

#11

He said everything looks normal. And the drug shrinks the prostate over a couple a months by reducing Testosterone and its a coincidence that my levels dropped. He said stress is not helping recovery and it’s a mental thing. Night and morning errection have nothing to do with hormonal levels. And that my doctor is a dickhead for proscribing me Viagra and cialis only makes things worse. If your penis wasn’t getting any circulation it would turn black and fall off. Give it a couple of weeks you’ll go back to being a mad rooter…the drugs not designed to work for a couple of months… Wouldn’t I still be on it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Stress not allowing recovery, shrinking junk does not help…" your 21 should be at the top of your game"

#12

sounds like a guy who has been prescribing proscar for a long time and has no clue … do not let this dishearten you … the one thing he is right about, do not stress, try to stay calm, and know u do stand a goo chance of becoming better, it may just take a little while, the odds are on your side

#13

Thanks mate. I’m no scientist or doctor though my theory is that the Penis is full of androgen receptors and of course propecia causes test to be lowered hence penile shrinkage that’s why older dudes penis’a shrink with age aswell as steroid users. I’ll keep you guys posted but yeah stress causes body to stop producing test hence why alot of people don’t get better because they think there fckd for life. If producing testosterone was a fast producing hormone in everyone there would be no one using enhancements. Ive read a lot of bullsht theories and yes there may of been changes to your body. Lack of testosterone and sure some of us
May of had low test at the time of taking propecia.

#14

This is when I would have walked out. This guy is a moron and knows nothing if he truly thinks this. The cortisol/testosterone ratio has a lot to do with morning and noctural erections and those are both hormones… So this guy essentially knows nothing.

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#15

Yeah I was pretty pissed. I know I’ve always had stress problems before propecia do you agree that yeah sure prop decreases test hence why people’s dicks shrink and less sperm but stopping it puts further stress on your system and mental stress slows down recovery?

#16

He was a lot Better than the other urologist.

#17

Finasteride doesn’t directly reduce test, for some of us it seems to indirectly reduce testosterone by screwing up the way people’s bodies maintain hormonal homeostatsis. Different people seem to react different to finasteride in how it alters their hormonal profile.

Medical science seems to imply that most times for most people once one thing happens a logical and consistent series of proceeding (predictable) events occur in the body. Finasteride side effects don’t follow this ideal and different people here have different hormonal profiles, but still share the same terrible side effects.

I have very good testosterone levels. Had most of the mental and physical side effects. I know others who have testosterone less then 250 and they didn’t get “all” the side effects.

In my opinion the differances are caused by our own bodies invidual mechanisms for dealing with biological/hormonal disruptions, which is essentially what happened to us. Our bodies had a (severe) hormonal disruption that lead to homeostatsis chaos, The reaction to this disruption and our own body’s attempts to regain some level of consistent biological functioning is what leaves us in this state perpetually.

In the natural world if (like say this happened to a animal in the wild) we’d probably have died a few weeks after this occuring for those of us severely affected. The fact that our bodies seem to fight it in many cases and at least recover even somewhat is evidence that a MAJOR disruption occured somewhere in the body to something fundamental.

#18

Interesting thanks for your input. I’m wondering why my test progressively dropping since i stopped propecia (been 2.5 weeks) Shock to system cause a shock to system? chance of recovery.

Word of Advice to all, my experience with Urologists are a complete waste of time, If your only suffering from ED + Lack of circulation + Shrinkage (It’s a mental thing).

I’m seeing an endocrinologist who is intrested in helping me with my problem next week, his a younger dude so he’ll have an open mind.

Wish me luck xD

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#20

lol First time I’ve seen Oscar hold his tongue. :slight_smile:

I guess it’s too late to chime in here but since he has a background in prostate cancer treatment he should have a grasp on the effects of androgen deprevation therapy. Many studies have shown this can result in penile shrinkage among many other of the sides you have listed. As a urologist treating prostate cancer he likely hands Fin out all day long. So I’ll be interested to see if he’s done his homework.

Let us know how you made out.

ps- I get the dry skin also. Mine was more blotches on the forehead and nose and in the summer months mainly. As 5AR is expressed in skin tissue and this never happened prior to Fin it’s highly reasonable to assume Fin was the cause.