Please help gents- crash yesterday

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#1

COPY AND PASTE THE FOLLOWING INTO YOUR OWN POST, then answer the questions.

  1. Where are you from (country)?
    USA

  2. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
    google

  3. What is your current age, height, weight?
    43 6’ 175

  4. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
    yes walk

  5. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?
    fast food

  6. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
    MPB

  7. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
    1.5 years back in 2001. a month in december, then 18 days ending this past Tuesday

  8. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
    around 32, in 2001. then off for years. I restarted after my prescribed testoserone patch began causing noticable hair loss (i had been pretty stable in that department for years). I took it for December 2011, then gave it a break due to side effects, then restarted in February 2012

  9. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
    43 Tuesday this week

  10. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
    ice cold

  11. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
    propecia

  12. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
    1mg

  13. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
    a week

  14. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[x] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[x] Erectile Dysfunction
[x] Complete Impotence
[x] Loss of Morning Erections
[x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[x] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[x] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[x] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[ ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[x] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[x] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[x] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[x] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
    Went to 3 emergeny rooms last night to get someone to take me seriously. I have discontinued the testosterone patch on reccomendation of the ER doctor and have an endo apt Monday the 112th.

  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
    pre finesteride T was , which was why I was
    ER doc said my white was slightly hig

  3. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?
    I am terrified like so many others. I will post more but am trying to keep it brief to see if there is anything I can do immeadately.
    I havn’t slept in 27 hours. and I am not tired.

  4. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
    I’ll add more here in an edit, in an effort to get this online as soon as possible.

i have numb penis. feels dead inside. so do i. what more can I say. please help. please say there is some hope.

ER doctor did a test to scratch near my balls on my leg. nothing. stuck his finger in to feel my prostate- never felt it.
3-4 days off propecia,
1st day off 5mg testosterone transdermal patch.

#2

try calming yourself, this crash episode will pass. avoid talking anti anxiety medications (ativan, xanax, etc) to mask it, if any happen to be available (benzo dependency can develop in a few days).

#3

wait it out see what happens in the coming few weeks. If no luck check your estradiol and compare it to your old estradiol tests.

#4

Get on low carb diet (mostly veggies/fish/chicken)… drink a bottle of biotta beet juice per day… take hot baths… yes, there is hope man. don’t panic. research and cut anything out that you are taking that DECREASES nitric oxide. like random supplements/vitamins or even foods you are eating… our bodies are in extremely delicate balance… don’t start taking random stuff that increases sex drive or that your doctor tells you about that he/she thinks may help, they don’t know what the hell is going on… stop masturbating completely… do hot wrap on your penis if you are concerned about blood flow… start walking 15 minutes per day… take digestive enzymes/probiotics with your HEALTHY MEALS…

read IHP recovery thread.

you’ve got to be strict… those things above will help you…

#5

I thought I would be able to edit my original post. But I wanted to update that my symptoms included hot flashes, circles under eyes, body weakness. Depression is truly an understatement. brain fog

ZERO libido. All my guy parts feel numb.

i am eating very little. trying to eat a salad & ensure each day. Zero appetite or interest in anything.

Today is 5 days off Propecia.

Trying to see a doctor tomorrow.

  1. Where are you from (country)?
    USA

  2. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
    google

  3. What is your current age, height, weight?
    43 6’ 175

  4. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
    yes walk

  5. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?
    fast food

  6. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
    MPB

  7. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
    1.5 years back in 2001. a month in december, then 18 days ending this past Tuesday

  8. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
    around 32, in 2001. then off for years. I restarted after my prescribed testoserone patch began causing noticable hair loss (i had been pretty stable in that department for years). I took it for December 2011, then gave it a break due to side effects, then restarted in February 2012

  9. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
    43 Tuesday this week

  10. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
    ice cold

  11. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
    propecia

  12. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
    1mg

  13. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
    a week

  14. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[x] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[x] Erectile Dysfunction
[x] Complete Impotence
[x] Loss of Morning Erections
[x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[x] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[x] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[x] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[x] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[x] Confusion
[x] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[x] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[x] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[x] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[x] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[x] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[x] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[x] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[x] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[X] Other (please explain)
Numbness to penis, scrotum and prostate. flexing kegel muscles does not affect my penis or testes. Scrotal skin feels rough and has become far less sensitive.

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
    Went to 3 emergeny rooms last night to get someone to take me seriously. I have discontinued the testosterone patch on reccomendation of the ER doctor and have an endo apt Monday the 112th.

  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
    pre finesteride T was , which was why I was
    ER doc said my white was slightly hig

  3. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?
    I am terrified like so many others. I will post more but am trying to keep it brief to see if there is anything I can do immeadately.
    I havn’t slept in 27 hours. and I am not tired.

  4. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
    I’ll add more here in an edit, in an effort to get this online as soon as possible.

i have numb penis. feels dead inside. so do i. what more can I say. please help. please say there is some hope.

ER doctor did a test to scratch near my balls on my leg. nothing. stuck his finger in to feel my prostate- never felt it.
3-4 days off propecia,
1st day off 5mg testosterone transdermal patch.
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#6

that’s a good start. although i would ditch the ensure.that’s that protein drink stuff, right? that stuff has got to be loaded with random preservatives and chemicals… when we are in such a delicate state, these things can affect you. eat only stuff straight from nature. and just one salad per day, on top of a regular diet will not do much help for you. you have to be eating ALL vegetables/meat/fruit/whatever straight from nature, not just one veggie per day and expect it to help… all the other bad stuff will have bad side effects.

#7

There is some speculation that quitting cold turkey contributes to the crash. Since it was only last Tuesday that you quit you really ought to consider restarting Fin and then coming off of it very slowly- as in months. I wish I would have.
Take care of yourself and try not to think about it all the time.
Tlecum

#8

I had read some discussion of this on the forum. Has anyone on here tried this technique? IE, cold turkey----> crash----->restart death drug?

Today is one week off FIN. Really leery about going back on it.

I have been to the ER 3 times now, saw an endo yesterday, and had a fasting blood draw this am. Hopefully I will have those results tomorrow.

I finally managed to sleep 6 hours last night, which is a good sign.

I still feel like a zombie occupying the body that used to be me…

#9

You should be very leary about going back on it. I don’t think we’ve ever had any positive results from retarting Fin. Definately would not try that.

May I ask why you went to the ER? Anxiety attacks? I used to get those alot right after crashing but never went to the ER. I’d just break down in meetings, while driving, in a restaurant once, etc.

You’ve only been off a week so luckily you have a good chance of a complete recovery as most people do. Good luck.