Plan to see several Endo's, seeing a top one

[finvictim]

@JustQuitDut

So a friend of mine is a big doctor, renowned Physiologist (a unique field of medicine), anyway, he just got through with prostate cancer, so I imagined he might know who might be able to help with this. So he referred me to a good Endo he said would get me back in balance, my plan is to see this Endo, and a lot of others, I am going to see several. I am not going to have like 5 to 10 doctors working on me, that way I can have a lot of input. I know this isn’t something everyone here can afford to do or even have time to do, so I am going to do it and let you guys know what happens.
Who knows, maybe one of them will suggest something that might help. The one I am going to has experience with prostate issues so perhaps he has seen patients with this, so I will keep you guys up to date. I am managing my condition right now with hormones and an HRT doctor, but the roller coaster sucks, need to get back to where I was pre fin/dut. My HRT doctor seems to think I am young and will recover and to give it time, but I want to try different therapies.
I decided I am not going to mention “PFS,” I find that if you try to tell the doctor what is wrong, it doesn’t help the situation. I am just going to tell him my symptoms and what happened, in the end I will mention PFS, or if I find I need to. I will share my experiences here, so this thread will be what this Endo tells me to do, and things I try. Let me be clear, I have managed to recover about 50-60% with HRT (though it doesn’t work properly, it is 100% better than nothing). I have had a lot of success getting my body to respond to hormones with high levels of Protodioscin.
I am going to play dumb with these Endo’s, my problem is I am too knowledgable and the last Endo told me I knew more than he did, but prob the wrong Endo, his specialty was more diabetes I think. I have found a way to make myself feel consistently the same, and got my muscles pumped up and I jerk off 1 to 2 times a day. Pre-dut/fin crash, I could orgasm unlimited, I know that sounds crazy, but that was how I was, during my few recoveries before relapse again, I went back to unlimited orgasms. It is possible that because my body used to over produce 5AR enzymes, that that is why I am doing better than others. Not sure, but we will see what happens. I live in south Florida where there are lots of doctors, so let’s see what happens.
I want to add that I was recovering really well, to a point that I felt I was almost cured, but started losing hair again, went on a tiny dose of fin, and completely relapsed. I know it was stupid, but I just want to warn others who are new, not to go back on it. Also, stay away from Nizoral shampoo, it is even worse than fin! The only thing you can do is rogaine and hair transplants. I know it is the least of most here’s concerns, but this is to help others who are new. I also want to mention that due to the long half-life of Dutasteride (5 weeks), it really will stay in your system a year or longer. A pharmacist I know explained to me that in 5 weeks it is at 50%, in another 5 weeks, at 25%, in another 5 weeks at 12.5% etc… It will keep splitting in half every 5 weeks. So if even the smallest amount is fucking with us, that might explain a lot.
I am not going to just sit around waiting to get better, I am going to keep trying new doctors, new treatments, I managed to recover almost completely, I can again. I am a unique case, I was on HRT, before, during and after the crash, I have test results before the crash, and after the crash. If I go to any Endo, they can pull up these results through Quest and see, so let’s see what happens.

JustQuitDut,i heard from people that HRT is a life time commitment once you are in,you are in for life time.Is it really true??

[JustQuitDut]

So I have an appointment with the Cleveland Clinic in December, my friend (who is also my doctor) thinks I am crazy. She won’t tell me that, because she is my friend she acts like she agrees with me, but she thinks if I go to an Endocrinologist they will think I am insane. That pissed me off, because she doesn’t believe there is anything wrong with me. When you tell someone that your skin isn’t oily anymore as one of the symptoms, they do think you are insane.
I made a promise to myself that even if my symptoms improve due to my protocols, I will not cancel my doctor appointment. Every time I make a doctor’s appointment, I manage to get PFS into remission and then cancel it, but I am going. The cleveland clinic has a lot of doctors and research facilities, while I have absolutely NO faith in any doctors anymore, I am trying to be optimistic about this.
I already decided I am not going talking about PFS or anything to do with this forum, I am going to simply tell my symptoms and that I stopped responding to testosterone after I was on Finasteride for 13 years and then took Avodart. I will say that I tried various protocols after my HRT doctor could not help me, but I am going to play dumb and innocent.
Going into the doctor telling them you read things on the internet and you know what is wrong with you will shut them down right then and there, and any hope of them even trying to help you. I think that all of us going to doctors is a positive things because maybe one of them will come up with some new protocol that will help all of us. 10 of us going to 10 doctors around the world is like 1 of us going to 10 doctors around the world, if we coordinate here, that’s my opinion.

[mcibofh]

Dr. Goldstein believes PFS is real. Look at all the stuff Towm8r is taking. If you have new information why don’t you contact Dr. Goldstein? He sees tons of these guys and if you really have found something useful he would be the guy to try it with some other PFS guys. I don’t think your going to find a doctor out there with some new untapped knowledge.

[JustQuitDut]

@mcibofh

Dr. Goldstein believes PFS is real. Look at all the stuff Towm8r is taking. If you have new information why don’t you contact Dr. Goldstein? He sees tons of these guys and if you really have found something useful he would be the guy to try it with some other PFS guys. I don’t think your going to find a doctor out there with some new untapped knowledge.

Yea, I looked into him, if he is the guy in New York, I plan to go that route next, just trying the Cleveland Clinic, it is suppose to be the “best” bla bla bla… They have lots of resources, my insurance is paying so it is worth a shot. The only thing I have found that CONSISTENTLY alleviates PFS symptoms is HGH, and all posts I have read from PFS sufferers confirms that. The only problem with synthetic HGH is you become tolerant and it eventually stops working, my protocol induces your own, so you do not become tolerant.
I am still working on several protocols before I go, Proviron is too powerful, I am waiting for the Andractim to come before I start going to that doctor. Lots of positive results from Andractim in low doses with HRT, I have had positive results from Proviron, but it is too powerful, so I am going to try cutting the pill into smaller ones.
I also want to try stopping testosterone and doing a PCT with high doses of Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 and HCG as well as Nolvadex. I am pretty sure that combo will cause me to spontaneously recover again, but since I have been on testosterone (before PFS) I have never quit and done a PCT. It is something I must force myself to do because I am afraid of losing muscle.
I found a big piece to the puzzle, I don’t know why you guys don’t go on Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6, completely harmless. I am going to keep the forum updated on my progress, but one thing I have been able to do is reverse and prevent PFS crashes, that is a big step, wouldn’t you agree? I know now what the crashes are, they are estrogen dominance and low 5AR and DHT.

[JustQuitDut]

And going to an Endo is a complete waste of time I am sure, but I have to try everything, flying out to see a doctor is a big deal, I hate New York. It seems to me that Andractim and HGH and HCG is a miracle combo for PFS, that is my most promising protocol I am trying to get to when Andractim gets here. The delusions lots of guys here have is that there is going to be some cure that fixes their low testosterone, that is NEVER happening EVER. So even if you fix PFS and have low test, you will still suffer all the same shit without HRT.
BTW, doctors are fucking useless for this, really killed my faith in doctors.