Came down with a brutal case of strep throat. Easily the worst I’ve felt since crashing. Won’t be risking any antibiotics so I will have to white knuckle it till my body fights it off. Miserable existence sometimes. Only saving grace when I’m this sick is it makes me appreciate my baseline.
Hi man, I had strep throat couple of months back, was horrendous.
I was getting worse without antibiotics and was very nervous after doxycycline messed me up after finasteride crash last year but I got a script for erythromycin, waited for a further week, still didn’t improve then took ths intensive 5 day course. Pleased to say it didn’t lower my baseline and got rid of the strep
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Thanks very much for the reply. Disheartened to hear it didn’t clear up on its own but really happy you found one that didn’t do you bad either.
Lost as to what happened and why. Got what I thought was strep 5 days ago and have been extremely ill with 103 temp all week. White spots on tonsils plus 8+ mouth ulcers on my tongue making it near impossible to eat or drink. I’ve unintentionally been In ketosis. Currently down 7 pounds in less than a week.
Doc swabbed me for strep but it was negative so he sent off for a throat culture which will take a few days. So I began a targeted red light therapy instrument i ordered off Amazon for the mouth sores. Used for at least 12 minutes today as directed for deep pain, but felt it burnt my tongue so I decided to stop using it. Here’s where things began to get weird.
My air passages completely opened and my sense of smell became absurdly sharp. I was scrolling through my phone watching reels and started finding them all hilarious. Mood was strangely elevated. Was getting pleasurable, yet off-putting, pangs sent through my body which I’ve never experienced. I decided to get some office stuff done for a few hours since I didn’t fill as Ill. I was feeling so much better out of nowhere. Then things started to turn south.
I felt completely wired with the blank mind feeling. Hypnic jerks bolting me awake if I do doze off. Anxiety growing inside of me wondering if this is it for me. Started getting a white halo flickering in my left eye that went away fairly quickly. Then just all these strange sensations I’m not used to. .
Just truly wondering if I can get through this again. I probably sound like such a lost cause. I crashed.
Yeah I’ve experienced all those things you describe, the wired blank mind, hypnic jerks, extreme anxiety etc. The never ending crashes are so tiring, I don’t know how much more of this shit I can take.
I had this thing that was extreme in the beginning where I felt like there was a nailbomb in my lower abdomen/prostate area. This would hurt like crazy at night and it would come in waves, arousal or any excitment would make it worse. Sometimes when I woudl walk through a store I felt this awful sensation of something like a chemical bomb being dropped in my body, and the sensations would spread throughout my body.
Just wanted to continue the red light crash updates…
Yesterday was day 2 after the incident and I felt like I was on a drug or something during most of the day. Serotonin felt like it was just pouring into my brain. It was hard to even enjoy because I knew the consequences were coming and I just want to feel normal and stable.
I did get a good night’s sleep about 6hrs to be exact. Woke up to a very suicidal mind which was the same the first time I crashed. Nausea has returned and had to run to the toilet to spit up. Both ears clicking as I lay in bed. Anxiety comes in goes. Muscles sore and feel like they need stretched.
This is sad man. I was an awful case. Pretty much the whole first year I was certain id become a statistic but I found a way to make things more livable and things were looking up even if barely. I just can’t believe my luck sometimes. I hope my mind can get back to where it was.
I guess the good news is it feels like the effects of the red light are probably done at this point and it’s just up to me crawl my way out of this hole again.
Was this like taking an antidepressant even though no pills were swallowed?
I’ve used finasteride for over 22 years I stopped a year ago I lost all the muscles of my body and I’m struggling to climb the stairs excruciating pains an absurdity … I wish you to fully recover for me it’s hell
I’ve come to a conclusion as to why I had such a bad reaction this time as I’ve used red light in the past without issue other than dry skin. I believe the power density of the device was high. I think the fact it burnt my tongue so quickly supports this. It was used intraorally, less than an inch away from my tongue, which I think caused my body to absorb close to 100% of the light. The mouth is in close proximity to the brain which is why I think it had such a psychoactive reaction. Mouth is healing but Ive taken a giant step backwards in other areas. Head has become pressurized, falling asleep takes longer, anxiety is much more present, and I feel cold even though it’s basically summer. Brain also feels flat. Feels like my neurotransmitters have some major resetting to do.
Logging…
Old symptoms that had once improved but returned since crashing:
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Almost 24/7 head pressure and headache above ears, at temple, and behind the eyes
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Hypnic jerks when falling asleep on back
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Eustachian tube dysfunction (ear crackling, ear pressure, increase in tinnitus)
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Dark intrusive thoughts especially upon waking up before becoming completely conscious
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Coldness in warm weather (seems to be improving)
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Difficulty in falling asleep at night (nowhere near as severe as first crash)
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Nausea (nowhere near as severe as first crash)
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Anxiety
Since getting PFS this has no doubt been my only real crash. Everything else I would consider a negative fluctuation. Took me over a year after getting PFS to not feel like a completely sick person, even though in reality I was. Now I feel sickly again and I hate that. I used to be so fit, strong, and invincible. PFS has made me weak and sensitive to the oddest things.
I don’t want to belittle your problems but they don’t seem so disabling. I understand that you don’t feel like before but in my opinion you can have a normal and dignified life don’t be sad and try to take on a healthy lifestyle (sports, nutrition, social life, supplements) that can help your mind recover a balance the rest will come you are still young and you don’t have physical pain muscle trophy and disabling depression try to appreciate this
Brother I understand you are not well but please don’t try to compare suffering. I moved in with my parents after owning my home and applied for disability after being forced to quit my job. I have complete muscle weakness and can’t workout or stand for long periods of time. My mind and body has been completely destroyed since quitting Finasteride beyond comprehension. I don’t sit her and complain because there is really no point and nobody here is coming to save me. Supplements? I can’t tolerate anything… Sports? I feel like im 80 years old and any physical activity leaves me bedridden for days. Physical pain?? I have that all over and use a theragun daily. I’m a severe PFS case who will be lucky to not die an untimely death.
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Well pointed out @waiting1985.
@Legalmust is still relatively new and in a bad way just reading your last post and jumping to conclusions. No defence regardless as those that don’t respond positively to supps, exercise etc and are generally getting worse are in their own versions of hell. This is not a competition to see who is the worst it’s about trying to support each other where possible.
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I agree! I’m sorry we’re in a bad way and if we start arguing with each other it’s the end. I love you and I wish you to wake up as if by magic one of these days as if nothing had happened I wish you with all my heart. I’m sad and depressed too this often leads me to decontextualize … Forgive me and may God help us because science and medicine have failed with us! If I heal one day I will come to Newcastle to see you!
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A few days ago I had a large reprieve from the incessant headaches and head pressure. Still many other things going on that were not present before I crashed. In addition to the symptoms I listed previously I’ve also noticed noise sensitivity is back, nasal congestion, sore throats upon waking, cold feet/hands, vision issues, and increased muscle weakness. I’ve also become more jumpy towards unexpected noised or simple things like vibrations/alerts coming through my cellphone. I experience almost all these things during my first crash all of which improved to a great degree.
Did some more research on the red light and discovered they make intra nasal devices that are intended to have more of an effect on the brain as it bypasses the skull and penetrates the brain much deeper. I assume the device used intraorally does the same thing. I don’t believe normal red light machines that you sit in front of are a cause for a concern as I have done them before with the only negative being it made my skin feel strange. I would just proceed with caution using device specifically in your mouth or nose. Doubt anyone is doing anything odd like that but I think it’s worth recording.
I have no idea but maybe you may have been impressed by this red light of which I honestly ignore the pros and cons
Headaches, head pressure, and mental clarity have improved a lot since the crash. They are no longer constant but come and go throughout the day in small bouts which are more manageable. The improved head conditions gave way to massive worsening of physical symptoms the past week and a half. I have been waking up feeling like I’ve been ran over by a truck, toes/knuckles cracking constantly, burning sensation in most muscles, and extremely painful feet and hands that is worst upon waking. Im stiff after prolonged periods in one position and shoulder joints are now painful when I move shoulders above head. Physically I seem to get better during midday but it seems to come and go in flares throughout the day. My eyes are more sensitive to screen time and a few times a week I have periods where it becomes difficult to read and my vision goes blotchy. Eustachian tube dysfunction seems to have improved as well but not yet to baseline levels. Been about 40 days since crash so hopefully I’ll start making progress other areas like I’ve done with my head symptoms.