I’d probably neck myself.
So you’d kill yourself cuz some guy on the internet who isn’t a doctor or scientist told you it was permanent?
I’ve already told you A1 alpha blockers fix the shrinkage… I’ve said this like 20 times. Moonman and I both had our shrinkage reversed when taking alpha blockers. It comes back when they wear off but this proves its not permanent and just caused by the fucked up state of our bodies.
No if i found out it was permanant not saying that i would cause you said it pecker come on, 9 out of 10 of us only have degree’s in wikipedia.
"Flaccid penis size is controlled by the free testosterone levels available in the blood. DHT (a hormone that give us all things male) has a large degree of control over the penile tissues (the elasticness of them for example). The testosterone to estrogens ratio controls how hard your erections get if this got knocked out due to lack of test for example then getting erections will be tough and your flaccid penis will hang alot smaller and lifeless at times.
What controls strength of erections testosterone to estrogens ratio?
Lack Morning wood? Excess estrogens or low testosterone
“Imagine the flaccid penis like a balloon. When there isn’t enough testosterone in the blood to support it “shrinks up”. You guy’s need to be aware that unless you live with for like 4/5 years the penis doesn’t actually shrink and lose tissue (it’s already developed muscular tissue) but shrinks up into itself.”
“You will get your penis size and erection ability back when you get your hormones back in order”
“Low testosterone can lead to high estrogens which in turn can cause prostate rated problems (prostastis is an example)”
Guess your right pecker 
Mine is in international politics and business, gradute degree in criminal justice
Not true, pop a Letrozole and your free testosterone will go through the roof but your dick isn’t gonna grow. Samething with DHT AFTER puberty… during puberty DHT will make your dick grow.
Cortisol/testosterone ratio has a lot to do with morning erections.
Nah mine was messed up for awhile… pop a minipress and he’s like he was long before the propecia.
Can’t do this till we figure out what finasteride did to us.
I was talking scientific degree’s. I’m a Technical Engineer.
Strange how mini press does that? Though I did have increased strength on erection with xyrem so who friggin know’s.
You have used xyrem??? Sounds like bullsh*t.
Also, try to stay on topic.
Nothing is permanent, just its not known how to fix. Who knows 10 years down the line we may be able to buy a new penis on the NHS.
In terms of my sides:
My libido on occasions improves so this is not permanent
My depression I have good days and bad (mainly bad) but still is changes so this is not permanent
My fatigued improves with sun so this is not permanent
My sleep a few times a month is good so this is not permanent
The only side for me that is permanent is the numbness. This has just continued to worse no matter how I feel. This I believe is nerve damage and will not fix unless advanced science can help – stem cell of nano science maybe.
Personally anyone who doesn’t have numbness should be happy. It is so difficult to constantly feel this void and it’s that reason I tried to kill myself a few months back. I am glad my wife found me in time and now I have accepted a life of no sex and I am working on ways to deal with the depression.
People do make temporary recoveries and see short lived improvements so there is a small amount of hope. I admit this has ruined my life for sure and I am very angry with Merck and the FDA. But greed and evil exists in our world ad we are victims of this. I guess we have to keep going.
Xyrem really helps with libido
Good on you mate my girlfriend is also very accepting. I really
Hope you recover
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I meant the idea that you have used Xyrem is obviously a lie. It is a stricly controlled prescription drug used for narcolepsy.
Stay on topic and dont post bullsh*t.
It is on topic. I wrote this thread. Pecker was highlighting that it’s not it’s an open discusssion
Lies about Xyrem are not on topic.
Or do you seriously expect us to believe you where Prescribed Xyrem (and then acquired it at a cost of thousands and thousands of dollars) a couple of weeks after stopping finasteride because of ‘anxiety’ (without trying any more standard medication) and all before even visiting an endocrinologist?
Only one thing Oscar. It’s not thousands of dollars, about $250 for a few weeks supply.
You dont know what your talking about. Xyrem can be thousands of US dollars for a single months supply - it is well known for being very expensive ( see; cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-42846395/how-a-sleeping-drug-company-increased-prices-300-without-anyone-noticing/ )
Do some reasearch, then consider if a doctor treating a 21yo for ‘anxiety’ would prescribe something so extremely expensive in the first instance and off-label (its a drug for narcolepsy) - given all the hundreds of other cheaper and on-label drugs available. All of which happened just two weeks after ‘propeciashiz’ stopped Finasteride and just a week before his first endocrinologist appt?
I did some research Oscar, stop being such a dick I wasn’t attacking you. For me it was only going to cost $250 for nearly a months supply. I do have medical insurance. Maybe someone without insurance would have to pay more.
But I wasn’t able to convince my doc to give it to me.
we must have hope for the stem cells for impotence.
are in medical trials on that. we have no other thing
be patient.
I have in this hell 12 years and now I have 32 years. if I can have faith. more than you have less time on this.
and with respect to 1000 that are affected is impossible merck earnings of $ 440 million means that we are affected more than 50 000 affected.
According to NBC the other night they said Merck made $140 million last year off propecia. So maybe all this negative attention is having an impact… Because I know that $400 million number is from a few years back.
Howrah least for future civil suits. won all the millions they will lose in lawsuits. and not with that we pay the damage we have done.
a note: my mother wants to be a grandmother and I can not even have a girlfriend.
sometimes I cry about it.
the stem cells have to do something for us.
Jesus what this guy posted
Rips my heart out as I’m going through the same thing
Anybody at all got anything to add?
Any insight??
This guy said he tried to kill himself and I have the same shit 
Anyone?