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#1

Below are my results from 13.02.2008

Testosterone - 5,13 3 - 10
LH - 3,64 1,1 - 7
FSH - 2,45 1,7 - 12
Prolactin - 16,52 1,5 - 19
Progesteron - 1,06 0,11 - 0,56
ALT - 26 0 - 42
AST - 35 0 - 37
Billirubine - 26 3 - 21

At first look I have way too high progesterone. Also Billirubine exceed range and AST is very high - so is it probably liver issue?

Prolactin looks also quite high. Testosteron in lower range.

What are your suggestion? Visit endocrynolog or liver doctor? I will appreciate any advices?

Majkellos, looks I have similar issue like you, but less serious. What is your opinion?

#2

I do not know whose tests look worse… According to my knowledge you have a lower testosteron then me and you also have got much higher progesteron then me. It is 100% above the range!! It is really high… The thing that is clear we are on the same boat, as many, many others who deny to test their progesteron.

Tell me first how do you feel. How feels your contact between brain-penis?

Your liver enzyms look a bit better then mine, but to be honest these enzyms depend on many aspects of your life.

Now it would be good to do the ultrasound of your liver. You should buy Essentialle forte anyway. Elevated progesteron might be due to the liver disorder. You should also do your HDL, LDL cholesterol test plus glucose and sugar for diabetes.

#3

In general I feel really OK.

Yes. The situation there is worse. For the most time I have quite poor contact (20%). When I will get erection - its about 70% of feelings I had before fina. Sometimes, but it’s really rarely, I have spontaneus erection during day when I feel almost completly OK - 90-99%. But if now I will have a girl in my bed, I would be able to get strong erection in few minutes and have a sex.

Ok. I’ll try to do this asap.

Yes. I take it for about 1 week.

Ok. I will try to do these next week.

Based on your knowledge and feeling, is our situation likely to reverse? In what time? I don’t desperately asking if there is a hope, but rather want to know for what I should prepare.

#4

If you can make an appointment with both an Endocrinologist or Gastroenterologist, that would be great.

For further liver testing, check GGT levels (Gamma-glutamyl transpeptidase). Info: labtestsonline.org/understan … /test.html

Not sure what to do about the elevated Progesterone as I myself have not researched it extensively. Best to speak to the endocrinologist about that.

It would appear the liver does play an extensive role in all this, my guess is causing some sort of metabolic dysfunction since it is also a prime site of steroidogenesis.

Have a read through this thread and checkout some of the studies linked within it.

propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … ight=liver

#5

Some next questions.

How much pleasure do you get from this erection?

How do you consider the quality of this erection?

Do you feel the pomping effect of DHT while heading to the orgasm?

Are you allergic to any food/drinks that you were not allergic before?

How is your skin on your face?

Are you from Poland for God Sake… if so, I can email to you in our freaky language?

#6

Good idea. I’ve already posted you a private message (PM).

Anyway I will shortly answer for your questions below. It might be useful for others.

Some next questions.

How much pleasure do you get from this erection?
How do you consider the quality of this erection?

When I reach erection, everything is almost normal. I have about 90% sensations and pleasure like before fina and I have good connection mind-to-penis. The quality is or about 100% ok - or a little less. Sometimes I have a little weaker erection, that when I would lose focus or concentration, then I would probably lose erection.

Do you feel the pomping effect of DHT while heading to the orgasm?
Yes. I feel this effect. As strong as before, or even stronger, because I have orgasms not as often as in past. I’m trying not to masturbate to often right now (about 2/week). Orgasms are also as strong as before. Semen is as much and similar quality as before fina.


Are you allergic to any food/drinks that you were not allergic before?
Didn’t have allergic reactions before and don’t have after fina.

How is your skin on your face?
100% Normal. As before propecia.

#7

I’ve just got 2 more results from my bloodtests I did on 13.02.2008.

SHBG - 26,75nmol/l ref 14,5 - 48,4
DHEA - 8,98 micromol/l ref 0,44 - 13,4

Looks ok. Does it give any additional clues?

I’m still waiting for free T. Damn. I think I should kick some asses at labs, they are so slow…

#8

Once again. Our problem is not about hormons. It is about toxicity, about digestion disorders. Even if testosteron is low it is still not an issue for most of guys here.

#9

What happened with your progesterone theory? :unamused: majkellos

#10

It stays where it was and is 100% ralated to toxicity.Simply read my posts in ths topic. This whole process is very complexed and elevated progesteron is one of the signs of this toxic reaction.

propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757

#11

lol… the funny thing is you have yet to provide any research to backup your claims, Majkellos. If anyone else here was planning on “proving” your claims were true to THEIR docs, they would need materials to bring with them.

I suggest you take a break from this site and let your docs figure out what’s wrong, they’ve already diagnosed a liver issue thus far even though you had all sorts of other theories.

Just my two cents… without scientific facts & studies as a basis for your opinion, docs WILL regard you as a loony.

#12

I am used to the fact, that people who try to actually do something in here are treated more less like lunatics. Good example is the case of Paul Waters, whose claims which are related to general drug abuse consequences, are danied by many members of propeciahelp.com.

In fact his claims make a total sens to me in finasteride context. I find his opinions and experience the most reliable here despite having no or just a little medical backup.

I am also writing my advices/conclusions, and I am happy for those who find it helpfull.

#13

I’ve just got results from bloodtest I did 10th March:

Free T - 25,52 pg/ml | 9 - 42
TSH - 1,62 ulU/ml | 0.27 - 4.2
FT4 - 16,12 pmol/l | 11.5 - 21
Estriadol - 36,58 pg/ml | 13.5 - 59.5
Prolactin - 196.5 ulU/ml | 85 - 390 (looks like lower level that before)
FSH - 3.45 mlU/ml | 1.5 - 12.5
LH - 6.63 mlU/ml | 1.5 - 9
DHEA-S - 385.5 | 100 - 300 (this is above range!!)

I have also liver test results but without reference values (only some kind of symbolic representation if it is in range or above):

BILTS 2.48 mg/dl some kind of marker >RR 1.00 - so it is above
Is BILTS billirubine? (I’ve got the results via mail, so I don’t have any comment from the doctor)
ASTL 27 U/l - within range
ALT 23 U/l - within range
GGTS2 15 U/l - within lower range

In mail I got the comment from endo. He wrote that it is probably due Propecia and that I should stop taking it and do another tests within 2 months.

So… nothing new. Of course I stopped taking Propecia over 3 months ago and I told about this, but doctor seems to forget about this.

Any clues and suggestions concerning my results are really appreciated.
(To remind: my only sides that I noticed are ED and few dark veins on penis).

#14

Additional update. Today I finally received results for Free T I did Feb 13th.

Feb 13th Free T - 10,2 8,7 - 54,7
Mar 10th Free T - 25,52 8,7 - 54,7

So, my Free T increased during period of one month over twice. I hope it is good sing, but don’t feel any significant improvement in my ED issue. Maybe stronger morning wood and I have it almost everyday.