I have. Hasn’t worked for me.
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Hi jrums, I was just reading this paper and getting very excited, but then I see it didn’t work for you at all? The way I look at things is that our problems are a combination of many things, so seeing an article reporting that one of them (genital anesthesia) might be relatively simple to address was very encouraging.
Could you say something more about how you went about getting this procedure performed? Even though it apparently didn’t work for you, I’m still interested in learning as much as I can about it. I was actually thinking of contacting the doctor who authored the paper. But maybe you got the procedure performed through Goldstein?
Hey yeah I went to a local physical therapy clinic first. They had a very expensive one and I did 10 treatments there. But it was getting expensive and I bought a $200 on Amazon and had been using it for a few months. But I know some of them cost like $5,000. But I think you should contact the author, Dr. Waldinger, and see what model laser he used cause I think that might matter.
Would you be willing to retry it if the model was different?
Yes as long as the model isn’t like $5,000.
I wonder a little of the physical therapist might not have known what he/she was doing. It seems to me it might require particular expertise since it’s a relatively new practice that is still being developed and probably considerably different from most other physical therapy applications.
Could you say about what the cost was with the expensive machine?
It was like $50 a session. Insurance might cover it though for some but I have crappy insurance now cause I can’t work. According to the paper it takes 20 sessions so it was adding up. They just left me alone in a room to do it. The laser I bought online is not as good as the one they had there but it’s still a laser. I would like to know the exact model Waldinger used. Probably expensive.
To be honest that doesn’t sound like it was a good evaluation of the potential of this procedure. We need to look into this further.
A measured 40% increased sensitivity by apparently reputable paper is huge if you ask me.
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I agree. But I hope it’s not like everything else in this condition in that something that works for one person has no effect on someone else. It would be great if someone else could try it.
If you read the paper the laser used was a 915 nm 100 mW Omega XP. He’s a very reputable doctor and researcher in neurology and sexology. I think this looks extremely promising and wish I’d seen it earlier. A nerve is a nerve if it works on one person it ought to work on another.
Damn those lasers are expensive. I bought a cheaper one for a few hundred. That one is $8,775 at one place. The one used at physical therapy was similar. It says 15 20 minute sessions. I did 10 in physical therapy and a bunch more with home laser. Wish I could try that exact powerful laser. Would love to ask Waldinger some questions.
It wasn’t Waldinger that applied the laser. It was the second author of the paper. What kind of questions would you ask? Just curious.
I want to know if it matters exactly what laser is used. If I need to use the laser I bought more often since it’s probably weaker. And if you should move it around. And if it always works. Stuff like that.
Maybe you should set an appointment with the second author. I don’t think Waldinger is involved in that. He’s a psychiatrist not physical therapist. But the other guy does seem to know what he’s doing since he got results with the patient in paper.
Hi jeans, have you thought more about giving this laser therapy more of a shot? I wonder if it could work if we used the very same settings as that therapist did. I contacted Waldinger, but then he apparently died shortly after, of all things.
I don’t think it’s the answer for me. I have a low-level laser but it’s not the good expensive kind. I used that at the physical therapy clinic but had no results. I would’ve liked to hear Waldinger’s thoughts on this. My name is Jordan btw not Jeans. I think you should try a physical threapy clinic if you can afford it. But I’ve got so many issues that I’m not as concerned with the numbness right now.
Are you confident your therapist used good settings? The “jeans” must’ve been autocorrect.
I’m not fully confident. He had no clue about PSSD and numb genitals
That seems like eccentric and barely plausible science to impress those who haven’t a clue about (normal) science or how to start thinking about the issue in the first place (like those speculating about penile nerve damage before more plausible issues or damage in the central nervous system, or talking about implants and all kinds of crap, and ultimately just settling with Cialis because it makes their penis big).
P.S.: I’m now not going to discuss this boring study, which is just a minor one and seen before of many which are in some way related to the issues…
Read it before passing judgement. He was a very highly respected doctor.