Only took two doses


Calm, you going to recover. I consumed for 2 years with 25 years old and I have improved, enough for a normal life. Reading this forum will not help you, the mind is powerful and here you only read negativity.


I had the same but at 7 am, no matter what time i slept my brain was booting at 7 exactly pretty weird, lately i can sleep better, up to 9m (6 months off)


Updating this for anyone who’s interested.

In the past month I’ve made some quite good progress sexually. I feel like I could have a pretty decent sex life again. However, I have a new symptom: Head spinning, vertigo type symptoms. Also often times when walking, even indoors, I feel like im going to pass out. Unreal. I wonder if it’s related to the derealization I’m experiencing.

Anyone know what could help with this? Cheers


Not sure what can help, but I experience the same. Also only took two pills. It seems like some of us with the worst mental sides/neurological sides took it for the least amount of time. Maybe because we had such extreme reactions. I’ve been taking LDN which helps with head pressure/headaches but it doesn’t seem like your suffering from these.


Damn, our cases sound pretty similar indeed. Thanks for trying to help though, I appreciate it. This community’s been a great support for me and it does bring comfort to be able to talk to people going through the same thing.


Hey how are you feeling now? Has your libido and stuff improved? I have mild ED too and no brain fog yet… weird


Yea libido’s improved after i started taking pine pollen powder.


So I’ve been on the cdnuts protocol for the past month. Everything was going great, i was seeing amazing improvement until two weeks ago when i crashed HARD. It was in class too! Ever since then my mental sides have been much worse. Unbelievable. Its unlucky enough to get pfs from two pills of finasteride, but to crash when following a protocol which has helped many people? Not sure what to do now. My libido’s decent, but honestly I’d cut my dick off if that could get rid of this borderline dementia derealization.


I don’t want to start any belief war, but let’s just say the merits of this protocol are controversial.

In your place I would not do anything. It’s early days for you and many peope get better with time. I know that you are in a bad place and are eager to do something about it. But any protocol may just screw you up even more. You may think that it cannot possibly become worse, but it can, believe me. This forum has existed for over a decade. You wouldn’t be the first one to think that you have nothing left to lose only to find out that things can inceed become even worse. It’s dangerous.

I have been here for many years and have read a lot of the threads preceding me joining this forum. Like you, I was looking for protocols. I’ve found nothing that had a decent track record with credible reports from credible people. If there was, this forum would be quiet.

You have time in your side. Give it time!


Thank you, i appreciate it.


Hi, have you experienced any stunt in your growth? Do you remember or confirm that you did grow after taking the drug in 17 years old? I mean general height grow.


I stopped growing at 16, height wise at least. So not sure.


Updating this for people to see where I’m at, at approximately three months post fin

Loss of Libido / Sex Drive - This has improved, watching porn is no longer like looking at a wall. And i can have sex again. Pine pollen really helps in this department
Erectile Dysfunction - Improvements here too, takes me a while to get one but once i do its rock solid usually.
Complete Impotence
Loss of Morning Erections - Depends on the day
Loss of Spontaneous Erections - Depends on the day
Loss of Nocturnal Erections
Watery Ejaculate - Comes and goes
Reduced Ejaculate
Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
Slurring of Speech
Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
Severe Depression / Melancholy - This has improved as I’ve learned to accept my current situation
Suicidal Thoughts

Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled) - Flaccid dick looks different, erect looks normal
Penis curvature / rotation on axis - Curvature
Testicular Pain
Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease - Getting better
Weight Gain
Gynecomastia (male breasts)
Muscle Wastage - Especially in hands, wrists, shoulders and legs
Muscle Weakness - Hands and wrists mainly
Joint Pain
Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Prostate pain
Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion - Comes and goes
Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness - This combined with the brain fog are the worst, sometimes I feel like i have dementia or something, but seems to be improving ever so slightly
Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
Hearing loss
Increased hair loss
Frequent urination
Lowered body temperature

Other (please explain) - shitty sleep, vertigo symptoms sometimes when laying down or walking on the streets


Tried a test boosting supplement today out of curiosity, and had a massive panic attack about six hours later. Currently sitting in the mall by myself, trying to calm myself down. Hopefully I can make it home safely, as even the thought of standing up from this bench makes me panic.

It seems like my body just doesn’t want anything to do with androgens. Which is interesting because I still get acne and have somewhat of a libido. Thankfully i can tolerate pine pollen at least.


Hope you’re feeling better now. Can you share more information about what the testosterone boosting supplement was?


Thanks man, I managed to get home safely and am feeling better now.

The supplement was Tongkat Ali, who knows if it caused my panic attack or not but I’ve heard others like Axolotl and Awor reacting bad to testosterone boosting supplements.


Hello again, have you experiencing any dull orgasms? How about the quality of them and in correlation with ejaculation semen volume?


I experienced dull orgasms on fin, but not with pfs. Semen is still watery though.


So you are stating that although you have low semen volume on Pfs, your orgasms are completely normal and intense as it was on pre-fin state? Im asking this because i have low semen volume issue for 4 years and i realized NOW that i had also dull orgasms but my mind just focused on the semen volume isolately for years without realizing how less intense and shorter my orgasms are
I hope you get better soon. Thanks…


I wouldn’t say they’re 100% as intense as pre-pfs, but they still feel good. On fin I literally couldn’t feel the orgasm at all.

Thanks man, I hope you get better too.