For how long has this been good for you? Significant enough for you to recommend others to give it a try?
Hey Oneday,
Are you alive mate? How did your PCT work out? There are others here who would like to know what worked for you?
Thanks man
Mike
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The reason why many of you guys failed to restart your HPTAâs were due to using the wrong drug. I promised myself to leave this forum for a good time because i finally found a promising protocol. But some problems came up and i stayed here to gather some additional information before i go. There is really a lot to say.
But only thing i can say now is that the best bet for HPTA recovery is Enclomiphene. You can buy the brand name Enclofert by India. Clomid wonât work for HPTA, because:
Clomid is a combination of two isomers. Zuclomiphene and Enclomiphene. We need Enclomiphene, it is an Estrogen Antogonist. Zuclomiphene is an Estrogen Agonist! Thatâs why many bodybuilders or low T sufferers feel good on Clomid only for a short period of time and then crash due to elevated Estrogen or Estrogenic side effects. Whereas, Enclomiphene antogonizes ERâs on Pituitary Gland. Well, other SERMâs do this too but as i said, they are very estrogenic on other tissues. Unfortunately, there is a limited knowledge on Enclomipheneâs tissue spesific effects. But from what i have read, it seems it doesnât have that Estrogenic effect as other SERMâs.
I was also searching Tamoxifen, it is tolerated very well in contrary to Clomid but it is also has both anti-estrogenic and estrogenic effects. Also it has some bad effects on bone growth. A mixed bag, but still a good choice. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18348701
Enclomiphene has been show to increase LH, FSH, T, Free T levels significantly in men. Thatâs what we need. Im not going to post every source of mine. You can all find them by simple keywords. There is also two evidences on Reddit that it increased their androgenic profile. https://www.reddit.com/r/sarmsourcetalk/comments/f022x2/meta_bloods_confirming_efficacy_of_enclofert50/
If we minimalize everything to one conclusion: Best thing to try for low T symptoms is Enclomiphene Citrate. If you donât have the acsess to it, the second best thing is Tamoxifen Citrate. Rest is a big no-no. You might want to supplement yourself with MK-677 prior to a SERM PCT because it also decreases IGF-1 levels due its Estrogenic affects on the liver. (IGF-1 is produced in the liver.)
A member from here fully 100% recovered by Clomid and Nolvadex together, but then he crashed a week after. Also, a member from Thinksteroids fully recovered by Nolvadex https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/x-propecia-user-bloods-please-look-20-years-old.134313387/ The trick is to use the right substance for the correct amount of time with the correct dosage!
No one in this forum has ever used the correct substance on correct dosages. It is insane that people here used Clomid 40mg every day and claimed it is not working. Of course it wonât work. The substance is wrong, the dosages are wrong, the duration is wrong! You need to use it 12.5mg every other day. (Search every bodybuilding forum and articles, all of my words are based.) Im considering that increasing androgens can heal us when i propose this hypothesis. I know that many of us felt bad or didnât notice much when we increase the T levels, but still i think many people missing a chance here.
Low is better with SERMS, so you should start with 10mg every other day. At least for 6 weeks. This is the safest and most efficient protocol you can find when it comes to SERMâs. Donât use Clomid. Use Enclomiphene.
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How about you try it yourself and come with results before claiming whatâs wrong vs right?
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