no sides until years after

Hi I’m new to the forum I have been on fin for 11 years, I’m 28 years old and was wondering if it is possible to get sides now after all these years. I did notice loss of libido at first but nothing to complain about, but the last three years have bad anxiety/depression for no reason.

Yes. You will find many cases here. This delayed crash happens, it happened to me and to many others. My problems started months after dutasteride treatment, but before that I was on fin for almost 5 years.

My first symptoms were loss of libido and increasing anxiety/panic attacks/depression from one day to another.

Thanks for the help. Did your symptoms go away after you stopped and if it stopped how long did it take for the symptoms to go away. Whats the best way to stop these drugs cold turkey or gradual. Will Merck and these other companies be held accountable for all these other syptoms.
Thanks

Read the FAQ at top of forum for how to quit, specifically section 5. You want them to be accountable, file a lawsuit.

I am sorry but it seems like all bad things that happen to people on FINA are attributed to the drug automatically. I am not saying it’s not the drug, but you cannot automatically link the 2.

11 years?? I go through depressions all the time, even before I ever heard of FIna. Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of people suffer from depression??

The depression is from the anxiety that the propecia was causing when it messed with the gaba neurotransmitter.

Lesten to yourself–‘the depression is from the anxiety’

Anxiety is not a cause of depression!

Sure, you’ve read a few articles here (and there), apparently know of the existence of gaba neurotransmitter, and you are already competent enough to draw medical conclusions.

Don’t get me wrong, you may turn out to be right, but there is no way for YOU to know that.

You got ONE depression in 11 years and you blow the horn that instant, you link it to Fina and condemn the drug. Honestly I don’t see your testimony worth anything in any (nonreligious) court.

truculent - F*CK YOU! Why are you on this site? To try and cover for MERIC? You have no clue what this guy or others like me are going through. The anxiety and depression is real and YES it is caused by FIN. We are living proof and there are some doctors out there that are just beginning to understand this. Obviously you know nothing about this drug or how it works and how it can cause anxiety and depression. The anxiety might not “cause” depression but they are linked, it’s called comorbidity. It’s a FACT! I suggest you do some major reading on this site before you start on the “it’s all in your head/nothing to do with FIN” line. So in the meantime STFU! If you are taking FIN and you are doing fine then good for you. Until you start suffering from never ending side effects that no doctor can help you with, you have nothing important to add to this message board as far as I’m concerned.

I agree with truculent, depression is common and it’s not necessarily caused by fin. I know what it can cause because of what happened to me, but I do understand his point. I def. did get anxiety and depression, but it was mostly due to the devastating nature of the things fin did to my body

Well Onni, I took FIN for 7 years and only suffered from mental problems, anxiety, depression. I never had libido/erectile disfunction. There are many causes of ED so does that mean I doubt ED is linked to FIN? Of course not! We can’t post doubts on this site about what people are going through or it’s lost it’s purpose! By saying depression is common and could be caused by anything it’s no better than all the doctors that say there’s nothing wrong with us. Besides, there are more than enough members on this site that have posted about their anxiety and depression and how it landed them in an ER on more than one occasion.

It’s common knowledge that fin Can cause depression, just saying that depression is common and fin is not the only cause. After coming off fin my anxiety and depression was so extreme that it was impossible to sit calmly in a cafe and I was gettnig panic attacks, so I know what you are talking about. Just saying that I understand that guy’s opinion too.

Hey Untru
Anxiety and Depression go hand and hand A**. When your anxious and it doesnt go away you get depressed! Get of the Fu**ing site.

Ok guys cool down… I can see both Truculent’s point and the others… but as I also experienced severe depression which set in around 8 months in (along with anxiety), I can understand where “r u going bald” is coming from.

As for being on the drug for 11 years and never having issues up until that point, I suppose anything is possible… but in fact “r u bald” mentioned its been the past 3 years that he’s had these issues, so basically it took 8 years for these symptoms to manifest for him.

The fact remains, there are studies out there linking Finasteride to depressive symptoms which promptly resolve after discontinuation, and anxiety via inteference with decreased Allopregnanolone production (which cannot act on GABA to the same degree it normally would).

The thing is with Finasteride, some guys never have problems, some do right away, and others can have them crop up at certain points… so IF YOU ARE STILL ON THE MEDICATION, I would not discount the possibility that the medication is causing the issue.

I knew I would get flamed, but decided to go anyway.

In every post i said that I don’t exclude Fin MAY be the reason. But I have Master of Laws, and a BA in Math, and the statement ‘I started FIn 11 yrs ago an now I have a depression!’ does in now way implicate Fin.

Truth is, on average people go through a depression a lot more often that once every 11 years. Chances are, if you never took Fina you would have probably went through a few anyway.

Just in the last 3 yrs I have had depressions because of my job, my girlfriend, totally different medical problems, and sometimes, I swear, just the dismal weather can get me in depression.

If you guys want to be taken seriously, you need to be more consequent and causal.

Agreed, people need to be more descriptive in their posts so we can understand their situation better, which would help assess consequence and causality. Making a short, 2 sentence blanket statement is of course not as helpful as a lengthy, in-depth and detailed post.

I know this is a generalization and I understand where you are coming from, but I have to disagree with you. For me at least, the type of “depression” (if we are in fact talking about the same thing) I experienced while taking Finasteride was unlike anything I had ever experienced in the past.

In fact, I will be so bold as to say that before taking Finasteride, I had never experienced REAL depression before in my life – but after experiencing what I did, I now know the difference between what you are referring to as “depression” (ie, feeling blue on a rainy day), vs the clinically severe type brought upon by a pharmaceutical medication.

Prior to Finasteride I was generally a really upbeat, energetic, motivated, passionate, optimistic and happy individual… ready to take on the world with a positive attitude. By 8 months on Finasterde, I started feeling disconnected from reality and dissasociated from myself, as if I was viewing life through a filter… became extremely sad to the point of wanting to cry for no reason every few days, started looking at life with complete negativity, became completely complacent, passive and had no motivation to do things I once enjoyed (hobbies etc), and even experienced fleeting thoughts of suicide. I was literally content to just sit in my room and stare out the window, feeling glum about life in general and couldn’t care less about it passing me by. Coupled with this were bouts of extreme anxiety, paranoia and feeling “panicked” for no reason at all. These changes came on so slowly that at first I did not recognize the connection to the drug.

Nontheless, this was all in stark contrast to anything I had experienced before in my life, and certainly as compared to any former type of pre-Fin “depression” I may have experienced in the past, (ie “feeling down” once in awhile for a day or two during some bad weather)… for me, the two types of “depression” just don’t even compare, they are like apples and oranges. Furthermore, this profound, drug-induced, mentally depressed state did not abate until I QUIT the medication, as it was only after quitting (within a month) that these symptoms quickly cleared up.

Only then, looking back, did I come to realize how Finasteride had impacted my mental state so severely. The icing on the cake was finding research materials which corroborated my experience (and those of others) who went through the same thing.

In short, what I describe above was completely different than anything else I had ever experienced before in my life when it comes to “depression”. People throw that word around lightly, but if you ever experience true, profound and deep depression (especially the type brought on by Finasteride), you will understand the difference.

It was extremely severe and a total 180 change in my mental state, it did not abate until I quit the drug, and it certainly was a lot more powerful than simply feeling down about the weather for a day.

I have to agree… I’ve never faced depression like this until taking SP. Does it subside? It hasn’t gone away and it’s just terrible. I don’t feel like doing anything and nothing interests me… absolutely nothing. Does it ever get better?

I dont want to piss any one off but i have to agree with truculent. i suffered depression in its worst possible form, crying for no reason, not wanting to be in public, panic attacks, paranoid about stupid little things (such as hairloss!!!), suicidal thoughts. all this at the age of 17 and i hadn’t even taken propecia. it is said that everyone gets depression at least once in there life.

however i bear good news!

i was at my wits end when my friend came to me and told me about acupuncture as a cure for the above symptoms. i have to say i was very sceptical and believed that it was all just mind games. anyway i tried it none the less and when i told the acupuncture doctor my symptons he placed the needle in very precise places (pressure points mainly) and then when he took them out a felt an immense amount of heat leave my body! that night i slept very well and after a treatment a week for about a month, all the above symptons had dissapeared! it has now got me thinking if acupuncture could help those with erectile problems? i will go and see the acupuncture doctor and then get back to you all.