No Joy in life.. 4 years now..

Symptoms Neurological
#8

Heyder,

Your posts are entirely reasonable and expected. No need to apologize for laying it out there.
How long has it been since you stopped finasteride? I can’t tell if the ‘4 years’ includes the time you were being poisoned.

I’ve tried almost everything to recover and done a lot of experimenting.
Sleep is vital for generating GH(growth hormone)…
I take triple strength Melatonin and Allopregnanolone (Celtic Dreams), both will put me in a deep sleep every time.

For the depression; I tried many SSRI’s and only found partial or temporary relief. So I went natural.
I take EMPowerPlus from TrueHope daily, high quality Omega3 fish oil, Rhodiola, magnesium, zinc and many other supplements. But I found these to be helpful with depression.

The only time I get down or sad is when I think about missing my wife and children and my home. My wife filed for divorce last October, and falsely accused me of Domestic Violence so she could stay in the house and keep the kids. I would do anything to repair our relationship and go home again.
But Propecia and the effects are clearly the cause for the mess I’m in. The one person I had left, that I could count on to help me through this, my wife, threw in the towel.

So now I spend a lot of time at the gym, biking, hiking or walking the beach. And I go to Church 3 times a week and watch or listen to sermons at home or in the car. God is the only hope I have left, and keeping busy with exercise redirects my thoughts so I don’t dwell on PFS.

Hang in there. Stay active and seriously consider making a few changes in vitamins/supplements to assist with sleep and depression.

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#9

Yeah don’t sweat it mate, everyone feels like this on occassion. I was borderline suicidal about three weeks ago but have been very upbeat lately. Almost feeling like myself excluding libido.

Just have to take it one day at a time.

Here’s what I’ve been taking recently, some may help, some may not;

-Stresam
-Low dose Prozac (5mg)
-Minocycline
-Caffeine

By no means a cure as it hasn’t improved anything sexually, but I’ve been able to laugh the last couple of weeks, which is the first time in over a year since this happened.

#10

It’s good to release this negative energy, I feel like this some days too, however I’m having more good days than bad these days.

#11

Glad you are starting to feel a little better, may be the rx meds you are taking are slowing down sexual recovery?

#12

Yeah that’s always a risk, ideally SSRIs are best avoided. However I’m taking such a low dose only 4 days a week for the allopreganolone benefits without the increase in serotonin, so I’m relatively safe.

#13

Dannyfc- are you taking 2 mg of prozac? I always wanted to try that. The usual dose for depression is 20mg, and the 2mg is suppose to raise Allo and not have any affect on sexual sides

#14

Yeah, I think at that dose it works similar to Etifoxine (Stresam). By stimulating the 3A-HSD enyzme it induces conversion of 5a-dihydroprogesterone to allopregnanolone.

Only thing is since this stage comes after 5-AR I it may not be effective if that hasn’t recovered from finasteride use. As I say it’s by no means a solution but it’s helped me cope with things lately.

It’s interesting how everything is interlinked, but makes it almost impossible to identify a root dysfunction.

#15

Ok well good luck, keep us updated. Ihateprooecia made a full recovery and other than the usual bulkshit about diet and iron deficiency etc, I saw that he was on low dose prozac

#16

Towm8er - yeah my girl left me too…fucking sucks…
its been 4 years of being poisened now… and i was on the stuff for 10 months or so prior to all this. it’s also been about 3 years since i’ve been with a woman… i stopped trusting and caring about ever having a relationship again after the breakup. i felt so betrayed and abandoned and because of emotional blunting my body stores so much emotional pain that i cannot access and feel through.

#17

I got some trazadome but i am scared to try it… pharmaceuticals scare me now… the doc wanted me on ssri’s but i was much to scared to take them.

#18

Are you seeing general improvement? What about sexual sides?

#19

Yes I am getting better. I feel emotions more… and I feel they are getting deeper. My energy has improved as well. And I am learning to trust again… That was just a terrible time for me when i wrote this. I have good days and not so good days… but sleep is where i struggle the most.

#20

Getting much better lately. Hanging out with females helps a shit load. And sticking up for yourself helps too. I was so spaced out before that i took everybodies shit and thought it was all my fault.

#21

I can relate. I also feel betrayed by my wife and friends. Even after sharing proof and scientific data I would expect others would believe me and have some compassion. I suppose it’s the ‘unknown’ that scares people and when they can’t relate it’s not exactly fun for them to hang around someone in this condition. Had I known this would take years to recover, and have an impact on my family, I would have been better off temporarily moving out until I got better. This would have saved my family a lot of grief and suffering as they watch me struggle. But I have complete confidence that our day of JUSTICE will come, and all the naysayers will know we were telling the truth.
Shortly after the divorce, I thought it would help to be around other girls, but I just can’t bring myself to date anyone or try to make new friends yet. I’m recovering, but not well enough to feel like my self again. I can’t wait to see the bellweather cases being tried this year, and the results of the studies. By the way, if you want to see a boost in improvements, try fasting and sleeping in late for many days in a row. I’ve noticed a big improvement lately in how I feel and think. And for the first time in my recovery I was able to have a rock solid erection of the same size as I was before. So that gave me a lot of hope today. Send me a PM if you want to know what I’m doing to recover. I’m following CDNuts, Droit, Finatruth posts as a guide.

#22

Sorry to hear this ordeal has had such an impact on your life. What side-effects do you still have and are they improving?

#23

i know exactly what your condition is like, i suffered from this too. its called “derealisation”. I didnt get it from finasterid… i had it before taking finasterid after a period of elevated stress. i had derealisation for about half a year because of stress (again not finasterid)… and i have recovered. dont worry about your mental state and the strange perception you have… I know exacly what you mean when you seay you have weird thoughts about reality… questioning everything around you and thinking about everything in a strang unfamiliar way… as if you are a stranger to the world and everything is unfamiliar… i think trying to fix your sleep will help

#24

acutally my recommendation is to AVOID caffeine, it will make sleeping more difficult at night and it makes you addicted.

a leading specialist on “derealsation” in germany recommends:

  • meditation
  • regular sleeping times (7-8 hours)
  • sport
#25

Interesting combination - how did this work out for you? I have both but have never tried combining them.

#26

Can you tell me wich dose stresam you took ?

#27

Am experimenting tonight- so far today I have taken 100 mg. Will take another 50 before I go to bed.