Hey guys,
someone I know takes finasteride and wants to stop taking it after I informed him of the dangers. Now he ofcourse wants to do this as safe as possible. I once saw here that tapering isn´t really helpfull because of the short half-life? I was wondering. Couldn’t taking a tiny tiny bit of a lower dose everyday over the span of months and months, help? In my thoughts this would be a way to avoid a crash and maybe PFS, since he doesn’t have symptoms right now.
thanks in advance.
I would say tappering slowly he doesn’t want to crash
I think there’s just not the knowledge to say for sure what the best way is, considering it’s something like 80% the 5ar inhibition from 1/4 of a 1mg pill vs a whole pill. It’s just not something we know how to do safely.
I mean, I took 1mg fin/day for four days, then 1/2 pill of fin Mon, Weds, Fri for four weeks and that was all I needed to get PFS - that’d be a pretty mild tapering dose even.
Having said that though, also took Saw Palmetto at the time (had no idea ofc) so goodness knows.
Honestly he should literally take a dht prohormone for a 1 month cycle considering the consequences of crashing and it wont supress his test and dht more than finasteride already is, its literally safer and maybe he can make gains that should be adequate time for his natural 5ar production to come back up, really i dont know another way someone would be guaranteed to avoid the endocrine system crash. (Hes already fucked up his hormones more than any steroid could especially the least suppressive type even less suppressive than anavar which is safe for women and children) the risks associated with a prohormone are way less than the risks of finasteride and it’ll upregulate his 5 alpha reductase and his body will probably not notice what happened since he wont even have dht high enough to suppress his hpta since he probably has almost none right now. Will also prevent his testy getting converted to esty.
Yes but i am really talking lets say u have 1 mg. U build that down in 150 days. So don’t make big steps in lowering the dose. Just very very gradually cut a bit of, split over 150 days in equal parts. I would say ur body almost doesnt notice that dont u think? Since u just lower it such miniscule amounts overtime.
This seems tricky
There was another forum where dissolving it in water/ethanol to microdose was pondered, but I’m not sure anything came of it tbh.
At least it’s incredibly rare to get permanent sides. Most ppl ofc are fine just stopping.
Yes but its a lot less tricky than once you let your whole system shut down. He probably wouldnt even need a PCT at all just lift weights afterwards and take some B vitamins or something. Everyone with pfs ends up with normal levels of 5 alpha reductase after they had very low dht this would just make it so he never has low dht and never develops pfs once his enzyme comes back.
The permanent sides are so severe i’d recommend doing literally anything that could possibly keep dht from getting severely low. The risks from exogenous dht are very minimal but people get fucked by a quarter pill of finasteride and may never be able to recover.
I think this is going to be way. Dissolve it and over a very long term period build it off, I think that’s the safest.