Natural compounds that increase 5AR activity

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#21

Here are the details from wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorophytum_borivilianum

Chlorophytum borivilianum is a herb with lanceolate leaves, from tropical wet forests in peninsular India. The Hindi name is safed musli.

It is cultivated and eaten as a leaf vegetable in some parts of India, and its roots are used medicinally as a sex tonic under the name safed musli. The medicinal value is thought to derive from its saponin content, up to 17 percent by dry weight. It has also recently been suggested that it may produce an aphrodisiac agent. As medicinal demand has increased, the plant has been brought under cultivation. The saponins and alkaloids present in the plant are the source of its alleged aphrodisiac properties. In traditional Indian medicine it is used as ‘Rasayan’ or adaptogen.

#22

More info [from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19751181 ]

Chlorophytum borivilianum Santapau & Fernandes (Liliaceae) also known as ‘Safed Musli’ is a traditional rare Indian medicinal herb which has many therapeutic applications in Ayurvedic, Unani, Homeopathic and Allopathic system of medicine. Its roots (tubers) are widely used for various therapeutic applications. It is used to cure physical illness and weakness, as an aphrodisiac agent and revitalizer, as general sex tonic, remedy for diabetes, arthritis and increasing body immunity, curative for natal and postnatal problems, for rheumatism and joint pains, increase lactation in feeding mothers, as antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, antitumor agent, also used in diarrhea, dysentery, gonorrhea, leucorrhea etc. It has spermatogenic property and is found useful in curing impotency, now it is considered as an alternative ‘Viagra’. Its root contains steroidal and triterpenoidal saponins, sapogenins and fructans which act as therapeutic agents and play vital role in many therapeutic applications. It is a rich source of over 25 alkaloids, vitamins, proteins, carbohydrates, steroids, saponins, potassium, calcium, magnesium, phenol, resins, mucilage, and polysaccharides and also contains high quantity of simple sugars, mainly sucrose, glucose, fructose, galactose, mannose and xylose.

#23

ipv

Are you taking any other medications/supplements at the moment?
The reason i ask is if it may be possible for you to take the Safed Musli on its own? [starting off in low doses]

i.e. don’t take any other supplements at the same time. This is for 2 reasons:

  1. To avoid the risk of an adverse reaction/contraindication with another supplement
  2. If you see any benefits then you can be sure its the safed musli thats working and not another supplement.
#24

I’ve tried many supplements before with limited success, so the only thing I’m taking at the moment is Clomid. I’ll consider dropping it before starting on Safed Musli.
Are you still having benefits?

#25

ipv

I noticed a BIG improvement in erections and libido after taking safed musli
BUT …

i have had to stop taking it due to a very recent onset of gastro intestinal upset (stomach/abdomen pain). This is a known side effect.

I guess taking supplements is a risky business, so i will put in a disclaimer as follows:
If you do decide to try Safed Musli, do so only under guidance of a doctor and/or ayurmedic specialist.

#26

any body using safed musli?

#27

Has anybody else tried safed musli?

#28

Is anyone currently trying Tribosten or any other Tribulus Terrestis product with high Protodioscin content? Feedback? Thanks.

bodybuilding.com/store/thermo/trib.html?MCID=F-PRICEG

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#29

stay away.

#30

Why do you say that SP?

Trib won’t do much more than raise libido it does not raise endogenous testosterone.

Ashwagandha Root Exract raisesT by around 40% and improves sperm count and mobility.

Divanil will raise Free T and bind to SHBG.

Tongkat Ali has been proven to raise endogenous testosterone in animals at extreme doses.

#31

Hey hey,

the best for raising Androgens levels is! Asparagin acid. Trust me guys! First time I used it, I realy thought i found the fucking cure of this shit and than…faded away like most of the things did, that raises androgens and made things worse. short after my crash with lower androgens i was much better than now, when my levels went up to normla again. What does this tells us?. Now, I´m realy happy to say, damm I´m so damm fucking drunken after a half bottle. yeah yeah Straight bourbon Whiskey seems to be my cure. First time I realy feel like my old drunken MF self …sex drungs and rock´n roll. That was my life about. Damm this fucking drug, I only had some hairloss and no cancer… now im worse than a guy who know when his life is fading away… knowing that it will end one day and or has a treatment. This drug is the worst that has been made on the world. And to all guys from MERCK trust me, before I shoot myself out of this world you will pay for your fucking lies, destroying so many lifes of very good and young people, who enjoyed their life, who had dreams and just hairloss!!! You will pay!!!
I realy feel normal now and good, like my old self. Keep you guys up to date how my bourbon treamtment works. Horns up!!! 81 :smiling_imp:

#32

oh yeah forgotten the topic of this post… pycnogenol raises the whatever of 5AR
and the most important activator is… Mr. dilauroyl phosphatidylcholine :bulb:

#33

Lets steer away from the negative posts. Brainbug writing yourself off is not going to solve the problem. I notice so much negativity and sensationlism coming out of this forum. How about we steer more posts into helping finding what exactly has happened, we all have the potential to fix this. Or you could be negative and not get better.

#34

This is going to be more or less my protocol for this year.

Stregh workouts // To production of endogenous testosterone and HGH
Creatine //+DHT
Tribulus or asparagus or both // For prostibiocin that + DHT
Vitamin E, B6, C, Zinc // For lowering estrogens and Prolactine
Maybe Arimidex in very little doses if I cannot fight the estrogen dominance

Belikewater

#35

Fininished a month of Protodoicsin (Barlowes) without any benefits.

I have used Trib in the past with some success, but not in a while.

#36

I can vouch for Eucommia… has been very helpful for me. Not sure it increases 5AR though

#37

I think asparagus has increased my DHT. Yesterday I was trying to sleep but my hard on would not let me!

Woke up in the mddle of the night with a hard on.

Morning hard on. It hurts now…

#38

I must ask the question to anyone and everyone on this forum: does the big question on the source of our persistent problems revolve around lack of DHT and 5 AR or a possible defect within cells–likely having to do with RNA (causing less tolerance for androgens)?

#39

Probably the most importatn thread in all propeciahelp. I have had huge improvements with 5ar activators, and as someone has said, maybe taking 5ar activators constantly force the body to get out of this illness, as taking them constantly put us on it,

Just dont forget to add Sorghum to the list!

#40

Can we talk privately?