My weird diet problem

Yes, twice in the morning and twice at the end of the afternoon. Sounds like a lot but my body can easily handle it and each time i see result. If i skip the afternoon i hardly sleep. But again, you need to combine this with healthy diet otherwise it wont work.

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Leave the overthinking to me, overthinking is my middle name. Looks like I gotta get over my enema phobia and just give it a try, someone in the Me/CFS community Iā€™m in reported the same things you are from it. Been doing my research today on how to do it and I think I got a good grasp on it, I wonā€™t lie Iā€™m dreading inserting a tube up my ass and pumping myself full of coffee but I really gotta just bite the bullet here and give this a go.

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I understand, i felt the same, but it was absolutely worth it. Better than any medicine iā€™ve ever taken. Good luck!

I had the same problem. Seemingly healthy diets decreased subjective health especially sleep quality while pizza or other carbohydrate/fat rich food helped.

What i learned that worked for me:

Always when i tried to eat healthier i increased my protein intake while limiting fats or carbs. It took me years to finally try a low protein diet instead of low carb/low fat. Low protein diet means lesser amount of methionine/methyl donors and leads to certain epigenetic changes. Out of all diets i tried low protein was one of the most promising things so far.

Another thing i learned was about the whole lectin thing and that veggies =/ veggies, carbs =/ carbs and so on. Itā€™s more important which veggies or which carbs you consume than avoiding one group or increasing another one. Avoiding lectins at all seemed to help. Some grains dont fit with me at all (like rice) while stuff like pseudograins seem to work better (despite them havin lectins).

Then there is a bloodtype diet. It states that every blood type reacts with certain lectins. Completely pseudoscience but some testimonials saying it changed peoples lifes after all medical approaches failed. My experiences with it are mixed. I had great success eliminating the stuff it says i should not eat (mostly lectin rich stuff and animal protein) but the things it says i should eat (like legumes or peanuts) donā€™t work for me.

I also seem to do better if i avoid sulfur rich foods like cruciferous veggies, allium vegetables (like onions) and again animal proteins.

A big questionmark for me are hormones. I react with severe side effects to all synthetic hormones like thyroid hormones, vit-D, insulinā€¦ I also have clear signs of endocrine problems like gyno, extreme hair loss and night sweats with no clear indication for it in my hormone levels despite some changing thyroid values. Everything speaks more for a receptor dysregulation, most likely paired or caused by the epigenetic dysregulation.

Meat contains hormones, milk contains even more hormones and fatty stuff like butter contains the most (since they are fat soluble). On the other hand at least low protein animal fats seem to help me and itā€™s unclear if natural animal hormones would act in the same way as synthetic hormones.

Trial and error seems to be the most important for me. Donā€™t just group all grains, veggies, fishes or whatever together.

For example:

Beef/chicken/white fish + rice/potatoes + tomatoe salad/onions/legumes would completely nuke my sleep and feels literally worse after a few days than just eating chocolate and cake. This was mostly what i ate when trying to eat ā€œhealthyā€

A meal of small amounts of duck/fatty fish + millet/buckwheat + leafy greens/root vegetables for example is a completely different world and gives me the benefits that a healthy diet should and even reversed some side effects.

You shouldnā€™t copy it though. If it works for me it doesnā€™t mean it has to work for you. The only improvements i made so far was when i did stuff that nobody else recommended.

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In my opinion what you are experiencing when you eat cruciferous veggies and meat is a detox reaction of your body, which is actually a good thing. As i wrote above i also would not sleep after eating cruciferous veggies, fat and animal protein if i did NOT do the coffee enema in the afternoon. The enema eliminates most of the detox symptoms by clearing out the toxins which were dumped in your bloodstream by eating this healthy diet.

There are no nutritions in pizza, chocolate and cake which your body can use to detox itself from itā€™s poisons, that is why you feel better. There is no detox reaction. But as soon as you start eating the right foods (veggies, fat and animal protein), than you body can start the detox process which actually makes you feel bad. But again, this is a good sign. These symptoms can make you feel very bad, as i know cause i am experiencing them daily, which can make you think you have an allergic reaction or whatever to these foods, but you have not. It is just detox symptoms but i understand why you would avoid them.

If eating peanuts makes you feel (much) worse than there is a good chance you are also copper toxic, cause peanuts are high in copper. Eating any foods high in copper is bad so avoid these as much as possible.

This is just my opinion and i respect everybody with different views but i think you are a perfect candidate to try the healthy diet and coffee enema as i described above. Just eat this healthy diet early in the afternoon and do your enema in the evening and see what happens.

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I donā€™t think is has anything to do with detox for me. Like i said itā€™s more about epigenetic regulation and thats what a diet change most certainly does. If supplements with methyl donors worsen my problem then it makes sense that meat also worsens it but thats just individual. Some people have recovered with methyl donors.

Actually i feel good on copper rich foods. My copper levels are also in the lower range.

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Great discussion guys. Iā€™ve seen many claims of people getting better from all types of diets. Including 3 citing high carb and junk food as their answer. It is individual imo

Having low copper is even a sign of copper toxicity, i had the same. Read about it here:

But again, this is just my experience. I was a very worse case and i could just not imagine that eating foods that humans did since they exicst (veggie, fat and meat) could make me worse. I pushed through and now these foods are making me feel better but the poison is still coming out, which is good of course. Switching to junk-food will stop this process so, of course, i stick with healthy foods. In my opinion junk-food does nothing for your body and make you worse in the long run. But again, just my experience and opinion. I still think it is worth a try if you seem to be stuck in your progress.