My Strange PFS symptoms also all symptoms of Kidney Disease

Also more symptoms I had early on point to this problem…I am working on a layout of physical, mental and sexual symptom profile and then grading the improvement in each category I have had over the years using these various protocols…

Also the symptoms I was refering to was the metallic taste in mouth but also if you look back you notice I complained of very strong amonia or bleach smelling stools…This is rare but is classic symptom of liver and or kidney damage and enzymes not working properly in digestion…

But…do you know what kind of tests can be done in order to check if the kidney is working properly or there is a problem?

I’m going back to urologist next week to see further…I had testicular cancer about 18years ago and they hit my liver with radiation I am thinking that’s one reason the drug has affected my liver with these crazy symptoms so much worse as liver was already damaged…

I had no issues with it before this though…I got sick from the radiation was all…I’ll try to get him to test further…

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Also have notice in addition to the strange tissue changes to the body my arms are small and soft although normal looking…Until you get about half way up my bicep area there is ring like dimple there all the way around my arm, bicep and from above that it is extremely swollen and larger…I am also starting the baking soda cleanse its supposed to help liver and kidney function.

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This is the closest thing I can find for symptoms… I see urologist Wednesday and hoping they can do something for relief it’s getting difficult to breath! This shit is scary it keeps building…Wished they could draw it off with a needle someway…

Latest update from foundation indicating muscle breakdown possible damage to kidney function…

REGULATORY UPDATE

‘Muscle-related disorders’ added to Canadian finasteride label in response to report by FDA-equivalent agency
July 28, 2018

Dear Friends:

Canada has taken an important first step toward keeping its citizens apprised of finasteride’s many potentially serious and persistent side effects.

In the June edition of its Health Product InfoWatch, Health Canada (Canada’s version of the US Food and Drug Administration) reported that “New information regarding the risk of muscle-related disorders has been added to the Post-Market Adverse Drug Reactions and Consumer Information sections of the Canadian product monographs for Proscar and Propecia.”

The “key messages for healthcare professionals,” as added to the Proscar and Propecia labels by Merck Canada, are:

—“Rare cases of muscle-related disorders, such as rhabdomyolysis, myopathy, myalgia, myasthenia, and creatine kinase elevation, have been reported in patients treated with finasteride.”

—“In some cases, these disorders were found to be reversible with discontinuation of finasteride therapy.”

(It seems safe to assume that if “some” reported cases of muscle-related disorders returned to normal after quitting finasteride, other cases remain persistent.)

Details on the five muscle disorders, according the Mayo Clinic, are as follows:

—Rhabdomyolysis
—Myopathy
—Myalgia
—Myasthenia
—Creatine kinase elevation

This recent finasteride label change comes one year after Health Canada’s safety review of the drug, which assessed the potential risks of serious muscle-related side effects. Based on adverse drug-reaction (ADR) reports by 11 Canadian patients, the review concluded that “the risk of serious muscle-related side effects with the use of finasteride could not be ruled out.”

We thank Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor for ensuring that Health Canada is taking proper action in response to consumer-safety feedback.

Health Canada disclosed Merck Canada’s finasteride label change just one month before Germany’s Federal Institute for Drugs and Medical Devices (BfArM) dispatched a so-called Red Hand Letter to doctors and pharmacists nationwide, informing them of severe and persistent finasteride side effects.

On July 5, the BfArM warned doctors and pharmacists that:
—“Patients should be aware of the risk of sexual dysfunction (including erectile dysfunction, ejaculation disorder, and decreased libido) when starting finasteride therapy. Patients should also be informed that, based on individual patient case reports, sexual dysfunction may persist for more than 10 years after discontinuation of the therapy.”

—“Patients should also be advised that mood changes (including depressive mood, depression and suicidal thoughts) have been reported in patients treated with finasteride.”

—“On the recommendation of the European Medicines Agency, ‘anxiety’ is included as a new side effect in the specialized finasteride product information.”

In addition to Health Canada and BfArM, we have identified seven EMA members nations, as well as three nations outside Europe, that have published warnings of PFS symptoms over the past two years:
—Argentina: National Pharmacovigilance System
—Belgium: Federal Agency for Medicines and Health Products
—Croatia: Agency for Medicinal Products and Medical Devices of Croatia
—Denmark: Danish Medicines Agency
—France: National Agency for the Safety of Medicine and Health Products
—Netherlands: Dutch Medicines Evaluation Board
—New Zealand: New Zealand Medicines and Medical Devices Authority
—Poland: Office for Registration of Medicinal Products, Medical Devices and Biocidal Products
—South Korea: Korean Ministry of Food and Drug Safety (English translation of data here.)
—United Kingdom: Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency

We once again remind all PFS patients who have not yet done so to report their symptoms to the FDA’s MedWatch program as directed here.

Those living outside the US should access the WHO’s Collaborating Centre for International Drug Monitoring list of pharmacovigilance agencies, as well, and report to their respective health agency.

If you or a loved one are suffering from PFS, and feeling depressed or unstable, please don’t hesitate to contact us as soon as possible via our Patient Support hotline: social@pfsfoundation.org

Thank you.

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I have about 7 out of 10 of these symptoms…the metallic taste struck me is it possible the kidneys are not functioning properly due epigenetic changes???

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I’ve got the full kidney symptom list too and also had testicular cancer

There seems to be a pattern of having had testicular cancer and developing pfs…As others here have to and one of the guys in those studies, can’t remember which one also did…Or it could just be chance since its so common among young men and just like younger men get pfs…Could it be the genes responsable for testicular cancer could also help pre dispose to pfs…Strange thing is I have no sexual side effects at all and am fine in that area…

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That’s good re no sexual sides. Unfortunately I’ve got the works. :slight_smile:

Just wanted to pass along I was able to reduce a ton of my water weight / kidney symptoms by hoping on the keto diet and taking a vitamin d/k supplement. I am down ~20lbs in just two weeks. Might be worth a shot?

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Did you get radiation? My TC was treated with radation not chemo…It hits part of your liver and I would become very sick about an hour later from it…I am just wondering if this radiation to liver has caused finasteride to affect us much more worse than most…

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Hi Holyhead,
I also had radiotherapy but had been taking propecia for 6 ish years prior to this. And had developed some of the PFS symptoms without knowing the cause. The majority developed later so this could have been the bigger trigger.
Hope this helps

Regards

Did my first real yard work this spring yesterday…Was up half the night last sick as a dog…Stomach, busting headache…I got really hot yesterday working, bad mistake this is getting worse each summer…

Overdosing on supplements everyday isnt good for your kidneys. Protein shakes, vitamin D, NAC, Diatomaceous Earth Aloe Vera juice have given me pains in my lower back in the past. When I stop taking them the pain goes away. Could also be a sign of poor adrenal function.

I’m even way worse than this now can’t do any yard work anymore…Did anyone else ever follow up more with the kidney angle? I also posted a thread here years back about eating baking soda helping more than anything else I’ve tried.

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@holyhead do you still taking B.S or did you become resistant?

I stopped pretty much…it didn’t do anything to help anymore but I did improve but physically I have gotten much worse…baking soda h e lped. Me feel better in a different way

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There’s a few of us in this very unfortunate group who get a temp improvement from supps/foods etc only to continue to deteriorate no matter what. I thought it was impossible to get any worse 3 years ago but the decline continues. It’s like Bejamin Button. What specifically has got worse physically @holyhead?