Where are you from (country)?
How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
What is your current age, height, weight?
6’3 140 pounds 20 years old
What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)?
I used Nettle root extract
What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
1 dose 500 mg
What condition was being treated with the drug?
For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)? For 2 days
How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start the drug?
How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
Quit December 7th 2018
How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects?
2nd day i noticed the onset of the side effects
What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?
I resolved all side effects
I’m just going to leave the list as my initial symptoms.
[X ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[X ] Erectile Dysfunction
[X ] Complete Impotence
[X ] Loss of Morning Erections
[X ] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ x] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ x] Watery Ejaculate
[X ] Reduced Ejaculate
[X ] Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ x] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility
[X ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[X ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ x] Confusion
[X ] Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
[ x] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
Slurring of Speech
[X ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
Severe Depression / Melancholy
[ x] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ x] Testicular Pain
[X ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ x] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ x] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[X ] Muscle Wastage
[X ] Muscle Weakness
Dry / Dark Circles under eyes
[X ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ x] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ x] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[X ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[X ] Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
Increased hair loss
[ x] Lowered body temperature
Other (please explain)
What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience?
I tested positive for sibo and am treating that currently
Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
I was using rogaine foam to treat my male pattern baldness and i had decided it was not working and decided to take nettle root and developed the symptoms i checked off above. Began treating my symptoms within the first week and am now taking no supplements and appear to be making a full recovery. I would feel guilty for not sharing my experience if it could help someone else out so i will reply to this post with exactly how i believe PFS should be treated based on my own anecdotal evidence and understanding of male hormones.
(I’m going to edit in my plan going forward in case anyone does what i did. And more info on how i recovered)
I’m going to continue to exercise, drink coffee daily, supplment creatine, take lactobacillus reuteri atcc 6475 for 30 days to replace gut bacteria with healthy human gut bacteria. Take butea superba about once a week to acutely increase 5 alpha reductase and gnrh i’m only doing this mostly because it seems to reduce my gynecomastia and i’ve mostly reduced it already and can no longer feel any lumps there is a certain period time from gynecomastia growing that most of it can be reversed but at some point it will eventually become permanent tissue (usually after 2 years is permanent and requires surgery to remove). I stopped lifting weights while i was treating my sibo because the carnivore diet made me have lower energy and the sibo had already starved me pretty good i’m starting with calisthenics again and once i got back to school in September i’m gonna be lifting weights 5-7 times a week and doing sprint intervals 1-3 times a week. Also any of the body/facial hair i had lost has returned and my sex drive feels normal. I have 3 refills of ciprofloxacin but theres no way i’m gonna do any more dieting to treat sibo because i’m already emaciated as it is. I did carnivore diet for 2 reasons one was to burn body fat and 2 was to starve out most of my gut bacteria so i could build a new healthier microbiome from scratch. (I also did a 2 day water fast) I don’t know what my body fat percentage is but highest estimate is less than 4 percent, i dont know how that could be humanly possible but i am pretty gaunt and can see my abs so i definitley have a low body fat percentage. Some other things i do sometimes that help are cold showers, eating sorghum, and a low fiber high cholesterol diet seems to work best for me. I will give an update on how much i can shrink the gyno, beard growth etc.