I have extremely bad gut issues and im following the same path. After a 3 day water fast only my gut bloating went away and my mind feels 30% improved. Gonna cut all carbs and go full fresh food only, what meats are you eating?
what about fruit? no fruit?
That’s really interesting stuff, @DutSucks
Could you suggest a week’s worth of meals or write down what you eat every day for a week so people can more easily understand what you’re talking about?
Thanks!
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Thank you messiah, you have arrived just in time. You are the hopeness.
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I’m in that second category, the one who has parasites. Never would have guessed I did. But I’ve been on a heavy parasite removal program for 4 months and have gotten rid of thousands of them. My protocol is close to the one IHP used with some tweaks. My strength on pushups has doubled. My sleep is 100x better. Mentally much more stable Sexually I am not making improvements yet though. I have many many more months to go before I explore other options.
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How do people here know they have parasites? Is there a stool test you take?
How did you determine you had parasites? Can you link to a protocol?
I didnt do any tests. I just trusted a number of recoveries I read with similar protocols. I did have some anti-body tests for viruses which I am sure Ive been killing, but I’m more talking about worms (ascaris) and flukes and other parasites at this point. Google Ihatepropecias recovery or seach my latests posts to see what Ive been doing its here somehwere.
It has literally zero to do with the gut for me. Now I eat tons of sugar or junk every fucking day and my baseline is higher than ever before. I’m also stronger and look better than ever, 4000 kcal every day and i’m still shredded. Fuck all your gut Bullshit. I had incredible severe pfs and I got better with sugar and junk every day. Herbs and hormones only.
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It’s comments like that of Invictus that makes me not want to waste my time here anymore…closed minded, unscientific, and not realizing each person’s body is different.
Testing for parasites is extremely poor. If you have parasites, good luck…killing them is really hard.
I somewhat followed parts of what Ihatepropecia did…some things I agreed with, some things I didn’t.
Regarding fruit…test it out and see how you feel…if fruit makes you feel bloated, cut the fruit! Even if you consume fruit, limit the quantity as you don’t want your blood sugar to rise too much. Same with starchy carbs. Beans however are amazing in my opinion.
For proteins, I really stick to chicken breast and salmon, and even those I limit. I also consume NOW whey isolate.
I would say importance is like this:
50% fixing the microbiome, and killing microscopic pathogens
25% killing parasites
25% diet…but this goes hand in hand with the microbiome stuff.
----but the problem with the parasites is sometimes they go into the colon and wreak havoc on your good gut microbes too…so this is a difficult situation.
I’ve never tried any hormonal therapy, so that might help some people. Also, if you want to check for inflammation, a good test would be TNF-a, and a stool test will have some markers of gut inflammation too.
All of the stuff that I’ve written so far, its a tremendous shame you guys don’t know it already. The years I haven’t been back here…I was thinking these PFS guys should have figured it out by now… !@#$ I guess I was wrong.
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Anyone try serum-derived bovine immunoglobulin?
Congratulations on your recovery.
Did you experience penis and scrutom numbness. Are you recovered in that department.
Did youe genital shrinkage recovered??
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Another underrated thread. Coincidentally my Miyarisan arrived today. I will use and see what happens to me.
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Keep us updated
I need to say something. Since Saturday I have been using the probiotic Miyarisan and NOW’s Walnut, Wormwood and Clover complex. I am in a state of great mental clarity. I had this mental state a few times even before the crash, as I was always an anxious and depressed person. It seems that this probiotic makes me “ruminate” less.
Besides that, my testicles are “less hanging”, looking more normal. I feel that the area of my penis that corresponds to the bulboespojiosus muscle is less “tensed”, although the subtle and constant “ache” is still there. Yesterday I managed to maintain an erection while standing in the shower for a little longer than I had been getting. I feel an erection maybe 1-3% better, but for sure infinitely far from being normal. Nothing significant.
I am definitely far from cured. Too far indeed. However, this state of mental clarity is awesome. I had it in very few moments in my life.
About the few points of improvement that I had, perhaps they are related to the production of butyric acid from the bacterium Clostridium Butyricum.
The only downside of all this is that, according to studies, this bacterium is the same bacteria that causes botulism, and may even paralyze the person in irreversible damage. Although I have not seen any Miyarisan users reporting this, I am afraid to continue using it. I think for now I will drop it and use some of the most famous and common probiotics, in addition to the probiotic reported by @orthogs.
I do not recommend that anyone use any type of probiotic without proper studies. There are harms that can be caused by them and do us much harm. I don’t even have the ability to recommend something to anyone, so don’t take it as any kind of recommendation.
I would like the OP to still be active on the forum, but he hasn’t been here since 2018. I would like to hear his reports on this probiotic.
My plan is to continue using probiotics and a ketogenic diet (and the butyrate acid supplements recommended by @MOONCHILD), as well as adding something to improve my adrenal function (maybe iodine) and some enzymes plus Swedish Bitters for digestion, as Chi did.
That’s it.
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There is some research that indicate liver function is improved by probiotics. Would you, by any chance, have any before and after liver function tests?
The relevance here is that testosterone levels fall with liver disease, and at least in my case, my bloodwork shows several out of range values that may be contributing to my PFS.
Has anyone been in contact with DutSucks or tried this protocol?
what are the point were you recovered? u recovered or are just throwing theories here? i’m also a proponent of gut health as a major player here, but u just vommited some information here and did not updated your recovery or sides that u recovered from.
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It doesn’t look like he comes around here anymore unfortunately. I’m also zeroing in on the gut but it’s been hard finding out what to do