My dutasteride story

Where are you from (country)?
Belgium

How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
Searching for my symptoms using Google, then finding this website

What is your current age, height, weight?
28, 176cm, 75kg

What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)?
dutasteride

What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
0.5mg/day

What condition was being treated with the drug?
Hair loss

For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)?
9 months

Date when you started the drug?
december 2021

Date when you quit the drug?
september 2022

Age when you quit?
28

How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
cold turkey

How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects?
at the beginning of summer 2022, so approximately after 6-7 months

What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?
sexual issues (mainly ED, and changes in penile size/shape) and weird sensations (not always painful) in the perineum/prostate area

Sexual
[X] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[X] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[X] Loss of Morning Erections
[X] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[X] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[X] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat (<-- mostly resolved with time)
[X] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating. (<-- mostly resolved with time)
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[X] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency. (<-- mostly resolved with time)
[X] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks.
[X] Severe Depression / Melancholy.
[X] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[X] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[X] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[X] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
[ ] Hearing loss
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
Currently on 5mg tadalafil daily (efficacy is waning, which is giving me major panic attacks); trying supplementation with zinc/magnesium intermittently, with varying (but usually disappointing) resulting. Tried a supplement (Proxerex; contains L-arginine, zinc, maca, …) which together with Cialis worked well, but also started losing efficiency and was hence discontinued (long-term L-arginine can apparently make things worse than they were to begin with!)l

If you have pre or post-drug blood tests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (please post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
Two blood tests taken five years ago showed T levels of 600ng/dL and 610ng/dL. Three repeated tests in the last 4 months showed 320, 340 and 325 ng/dL. Did an additional test for DHT, which I hadn’t tested before so I don’t know what my baseline is, but it came back pretty low at 0.38 nmol/L (range 0.32-2.18nmol/L).

Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
**Started dutasteride in december 2021, fearing hair loss.
At first, I didn’t notice any side-effects, and hence continued taking it throughout the first half of 2022.
Then, around summer, I noticed I wasn’t getting any morning or nocturnal erections anymore, and I also started losing my erection during masturbation. I visited a urologist who told me everything was probably fine, and he gave me a prescription for 5mg Cialis/tadalafil daily. While this initially “worked” great, I noticed that already by the end of the summer, the drug was losing efficacy. I started searching for my symptoms online in greater detail, found this forum, and immediately threw away that poison in september 2022. Unfortunately, some side effects are lingering even after discontinuation of the drug.

Currently, I’m consulting with an endocrinologist. He recommended supplementing with Proxerex (a supplement containing L-arginine, zinc, maca, …), which worked well together with the Cialis, but also started losing efficacy. I feared that I would build a tolerance or even worse, end up in an even more miserable baseline situation. There is some research backing this up (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24860943/), so just to be safe I discontinued this supplement.
Currently not taking anything for a few weeks except for a magnesium pill in the evening, to see if my body can reset its tolerance**

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Hey man, sorry to about all this. It’s good to see you’re making somewhat of a recovery (even if it’s just mental side effects).

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Thanks for your support (and the reference)!

While I’m glad that most of the mental side effects have resolved, at the same the the remaining physical sides are enough to cause depression on their own.

I’m happy I found this forum, and honestly flabbergasted seeing how much these medicines are still being prescribed, while at the same time having more than enough evidence (both scientific and anecdotal) about their long-lasting (potentially permanent?) negative effects. It’s just male poison, period.

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@hdnuts how is your anxiety right now? Is It caused by your physical symptoms or because the effect of dutasteride?

I crashed 3 weeks ago from avodarr and my worst symptom is anxiety…

Thanks and sry for my english!

Hi there!

I think my anxiety and other mental effects directly caused by the drug are gone. My remaining mental sides are indirectly caused due to me panicking about the physical sides that seem to persist so far. I know this because, on the rare occasions that my physical sides are better (for instance when using a lot of Cialis to overcome them), I’m feeling very well mentally!

Give it some time, it seems very common for at least the mental sides to improve; 3 weeks is very little time (for me it took ~2 months maybe, hard to say). How are your physical symptoms?

@hdnuts im so grateful for your response my friend.

My mental symptoms:

-extreme anxiety at night since i Will wake Up gaspering for Air and with heartpain (had ECG and heart tests so its anxiety 100%) so i dont want to sleep. Happened me in the past when i was anxious for my job/studies but not everiday with this intensity :smiley:
-ammonia smell (phantosmia). It subsides when im not anxious.
-brainfog (i think subsided 75-85%). Cant comfirm cuz Its more severe when im at street and i just went for a walk 2 o 3 times since i crashed

physical:

-there are days that my urinate frequency is just irreal (more than 10 times). It happened 2/3 times (i had Blood tests when i crashed and seems its not kidney problema.)
-i had not sweat but noticed while im writing this msg that i have back my typocal bad sweat in armpits for the first time in weeks.

-ED? No, can masturbate 100% and have so good erection. Also have libido.But I dont have spontaneous/morning/nocturnal erections and i dont produce a good quantity of sperma. I had this problem before dutasteride so i dont know if im more affected or not.Thats why i wasnt afraid of taking this poison cause i already had problem with this and thought possivbly side effects were only sexual.

I Will feel good if i just recover my cognitve and have good sleep again

At least im not depressed and im enjoyimg time with my lovely famiy.

I asked you because i’ve seen your one of the few cases that only took avodart. Saw other cases of ppl taking avodart but they were using finasteride first.

Thanks for asking i apreciate It so much and sry for my english.