You guys who believe you can get through this without being on hormones for the rest of your life are naive, no offense, but low testosterone is another issue that cannot be resolved. What makes you think this can? Millions of guys all over the world have Low testosterone and are going on testosterone therapy, in south florida any guy with money over the age of 30 is on testosterone here.
If you are trying to recover from low testosterone naturally, you should start another forum for that to be honest. PFS is entirely different, while low testosterone may or may not be a factor with it, you will never recover if your testosterone is low. I had low T before I got PFS and test changed my life, now by adding Masteron and Arimidex and testosterone, I have reversed this thing.
MCI, I had the dull emptiness you speak of, that is what I managed to reverse with my protocol, I would say that is the most important thing I reversed. The Arimidex kills the estrogen dominance which makes you feel like you want to die, the emptiness will go away after you get that under control, and Masteron will restore the androgenic feelings you are lacking.
I switched to Masteron Enanthate (long acting), I am having much better results with it, it feels more steady and even. My dick is like always ready to go, but I am horny and feel good, I really am onto something here guys. So I recommend the Masteron Enanthate vs the Masteron Prop, as I predicted it works better, but it will take a few weeks to kick in. I have a friend who doesnāt have PFS and has gone on Masteron and it took a few weeks for him to notice it.
@JustQuitDut - Your another forum Fuck-tard (English For Daft Cunt)
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How much is Jacobs charging you???
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Please list the potential side effects of ALL the DRUGS you are putting in your body from Jacobs???
I know Testosterone alone can cause a higher risk of prostate cancer and heart disease.
Your protocol is not a cure and it will lose its effectiveness soon enough. All your doing is putting a plaster over your PFS wounds. Stop and it will all come back in full force as you admit yourself.
You fool. 
Delusionā¦ Your opinions count for nothing on here.
I know you told another forum member to take Liquidex, which isānt even for fucking human consumption !!!
Whoās worse than Merck? You are you Prick !!! Telling people to take shit thats not even safe for human consumption !!!
Give your head a bang daft lad !!!
I was on HRT long before PFS, it never lost effectiveness, what is your opinion based on? I have absolutely no problem adding another hormone to my protocol to reverse PFS 100%, I already was on for the rest of my life anyway. If you think you will recover from low T naturally or this condition naturally you are naive, as for Liquidex, you are a moron, an absolute moron. That website sells liquid versions of AI's they "say" are for experimentation with animals simply so that they can legally sell the stuff, but no one buys it for use with animals you idiot.
The site is geared for body builders, and their stuff works great, but you can buy the pill form from overseas sites if you want, this is just in the USA. Testosterone only causes heart conditions in old men who don't workout or eat right or exercise and go on testosterone thinking they are 21 again throwing caution to the wind, fucking and eating and thinking they are super human.
When diet, exercise and a healthy lifestyle is chosen, testosterone prevents diabetes and senility and studies have proven that. Last night I fucked a chick for 2 hours on my protocol, I have big muscles again, how is your natural healing going for you buddy? I honestly feel if you are proposing recovery from Low Testosterone without hormones then you are not talking about PFS, you are talking about an alternative medical treatment for low T, that is entirely different and you should start your own forum.
If all you have is Low T and you are responsive to testosterone therapy then you have NO grounds to sue Merck, low T happens for all sorts of reasons, if you haven't tried testosterone then you have no real way of knowing if you have low T or PFS. I had low T before PFS and testosterone changed my life, it wasn't till I crashed from PFS after taking Avodart that I was non responsive to testosterone normally till I incorporated high doses of AI's and Masteron.
BTW, how safe do you think you are allowing your body to FLOOD yourself with Estrogen? Estrogen causes cancer, all of the side effects of your body acting as though it has a powerful 5AR inhibitor in it are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than using hormones to reverse the damage. You put yourself at risk for all sorts of cancers which we know are caused by Estrogen. There is dispute today among doctors about even prostate cancer and its cause, since it occurs mostly in older men with declined Androgen levels (as opposed to young guys with raging hormones) it may very well be caused by high estrogen and low testosterone/DHT.
I had a doctor friend terrified of going on HRT because he was afraid it would cause cancer, so he got cancer without going on it. Meanwhile I have a few other doctor friends on HRT, no cancer, perfect health, but go on and try your Yoga and spinach and parsley leaf and maybe in 10 years you will have another 10% recovery. Perhaps by the time you are 90 years old you will be able to get erections again, meanwhile it won't be long before someone here goes on this protocol and starts recovering and then others follow.
The proposition that recovery from hypogonadism or secondary hypogonadism naturally makes a joke out of PFS and this forum, it really does, and it shows what extreme lack of knowledge you have in any of these. You are so afraid of hormones, you need to fear your own, Estrogen is EXTREMELY dangerous when it is not under control.Go Aheadā¦ Follow his HARD drugs approach of recovering/protocolā¦NOT FOR ME THANK YOU
ANSWERS PLEASE WHICH YOU IGNOREDā¦
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How much is Jacobs charging you???
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Please list the potential side effects of ALL the DRUGS you are putting in your body from Jacobs???
Yes Iād like to see you BANNED
You Fucking MUG
Go spend your thousands as Jacobs cashes in on your ritches you fool !!!
I donāt like to argue but jqd you are arrogant, and I think we should be all together on this but you are not. You ignore people who got cured. Cdnuts, chi, iatepropecia, queg, japanther, light at the end, elb, Beekay, Apr1989 and others, they are cured and hormone free, supplement, medicine free. They are cured, you are not, you maybe covered your symptoms while on hormones but thatās not a cure.
Paleo diet!! Read what it does to neurotransmitters and the brain. I have had a dramatic recovery on it, in incidentally those that recovered followed it and I see how they did it now. Speed up metabolism! Try it
whats you problem thetigershull?
hes trying out lots of stuff for himself and indirectly for us too. why arent you thankful?
get your head checked
This is a merry-go-round of ātreatmentsā and failures. People are not able to see this for some reason.
at least hes trying something new and not totally insane.
Everyone knows donating money to the foundation is the best thing to do, but unfotunately the foundation is not transparent enough to trust.
The foundation is as transparent as it needs to beā¦ what is it you are looking to know from them? They can only communicate so much without letting their plans onto the pharmas. Donāt forget that they are using the cash for research. There are no paid-for communications staff.
Itās clear from this post what your attitude is concerning other means of recovery. Those who are trying to recover and have recovered using natural means such as high intensity exercise and a paleo diet have recovered in a few years, not 50 years you fucking twat. I actually got up to 75% recovery with this method in just two years and some months. Why donāt you just do your thing for a year or a couple of years or whatever, then stop ingesting and injecting all that crap for several months. If you stay recovered then post a recovery here with your protocol explaining exactly what you did. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and stop injecting your own verbal poison all over these forums.
if they cured why dont we cured with doing all this any improvement maybe you are right someone or doctors must search a cure for works all of us
Itās very old news that this condition is estrogen dominance, Braziliandude you are way behind, we all know that I think, well at least I do, Dr Jacobs does, that is one problem. AIās improve symptoms when the right dose is given etcā¦
Justquitdut when you find a cure you can be arrogant but not now. Youāre using thousands of hormones, this is not a cure, it is the same as viagra for ED. Marioitali with NO supplementation got symptom free. All the other guys that I quote are cured, youāre not. I think that huge variery of hormones are shutting down your education, Iām not gonna be unpolite like you and I really wish that you get cured without being jailed on hormones for life like the others that are actually cured.
You are way behind thinking the only solution is being a hormonized person for life, actually youāre just masking your problems, but I hope you have enough money to keep with your hormone madness or that you reach a real cure when you change your mind. Peace and education is what you need.
Brazilians are extremely primitive people, I have Brazilian friends that are like family, I love them, but your culture is backwards and primitive. Most of your comments are not worth responding to, I am not meaning to be rude, I love Brazilian people and culture, you are a nice people, love the food. When it comes to medicine and science though, I hardly would take advice from someone from Brazil.
Hypogonadism is a lifelong condition with no natural cure, when you have low testosterone, you have low testosterone, and in fact it is not a condition, it is a fact of life. As you age your body produces less hormones, men produce less testosterone, less HGH, that is why older men have less muscle than younger men. That is why people age mostly, restoring HGH and other hormone levels can keep someone young till they die of old age.
You can choose to become old and weak and feeble, I choose to remain young and strong till the end, my dad is 68, he went on anti-aging hormones and is like a 21 year old again. Perfect body, happier, libido like a 21 year old, all his health problems went away, he is off all his medications. I have no interest in hearing about your naive ideas about recovering from old age naturally.
This condition damages a lot of things, one problem is enzymic and possibly an anti-body that fights the 5AR enzyme, another problem is hypogonadism which is secondary. If you wish to recover from hypogonadism (low testosterone) naturally, you should go to another forum. That is quackery science, it is not legitimate and it is a waste of time. Old age is a fact of life and so are declining hormones, menās testosterone declines after age 25.
The new anti-aging medical field believes in maintaining hormone levels the same as when you were 21, most 100% of men they work, but with PFS they do not work the same way. You may get better over time from this condition, but you will never be the same, you will be slower, weaker, have a lower libido, it is just how hormones work.
I am healthy, strong and fully functional because of hormones, and hormones do not stop recovery, the condition affects the 5AR enzyme, the regulation of these enzymes or production is damaged or destroyed. The other theory is that the body has produced an antibody which is fighting the 5AR enzymes with your immune system.
Hormones induce the 5AR enzyme, they do not repress it, on all the hormones I am on I should be producing so much 5AR enzymes that I would lose all my hair and have horrible acne. However, that is not occurring because the 5AR system is not working, if it turns back on I will know within minutes because of my sensitivity to the 5AR enzyme.
You and the other Brazilian are primitive people with primitive views of things, but I normally ignore you, I know where you are coming from. I know this sounds condescending and mean, but it is not my intention, I am here to find a treatment that will allow people with PFS to lead a normal and happy life. Like all conditions and diseases there are treatments, only fools sit around thinking they will recover from serious diseases and conditions naturally, that is just denial.
I was in denial myself before I went on testosterone (pre-PFS), but it changed my life till I got PFS, I am not only using my knowledge and experience to find protocols that reverse this, I am consulting with the doctors who are researching this condition. I plan to go to every single doctor and come up with the ultimate protocol. Then it can be your choice to sit and suffer and ārecoverā naturally, or take medication that can allow you to lead a normal life.
People with cancer also try natural recovery, some guys with hairloss try to recover from hairloss naturally, but that doesnāt work out too well does it? Neither will this, donāt get me wrong, I believe many will be able to recover to an extent, but you will never be the same. I am integrating anti-aging medicine with a treatment so that not only will someone reverse the condition, but have the vitality and energy and strength and libido of a 21 year old.
Every doctor who treats PFS uses hormones, I am not bashing you for trying to recover naturally, but when you have declined hormones it is difficult to stay in shape and healthy. The only way to control estrogen from this condition is with Anti-estrogen drugs, natural anti-estrogens are good for normal men with higher estrogen, but not with PFS, PFS basically converts most of your testosterone to estrogen. An anti-estrogen alone without hormones (doses correctly) could fix about 50% of PFS, and from what I read in the forums, there have not been any guys here who have correctly used AIās.
justquitdut
some people on here have recovered fully from hypogondalysm and pfsā¦ how do you explain that? do you think they are fake and from Merck, if not, something must have happened naturally withouth hormones.
Yea but their testosterone levels were low from what I have seen, 900 to 1200 is the range that you have at 21. Plus, Iām not trying to be negative, Iām sure people can recover, some fully, but their testosterone from what I have seen was still low, just better, prove me wrong thoigh if I am. It all depends on how good you want to feel, how young you want to feel, the closer to age 18 hormones, the best you feel.
The feeling is amazing, if you donāt know what test feels like on a normal guy without pfs then consider yourself lucky, you donāt know what you are missing. I do, thatās why I fought so hard to get it back. Iām feeling it again with the hormone protocol Iām on.
i think i have gotten better natrually alreaday. when i chrashed my face was feminine as fuck, thick lips round eyes, feminine water retention, hoarse voice, feeling gayā¦ now i feel better again, though not all the time. for example i dont get high energy levels anymore like i used to. but: since i have recovered already alitlebit on the estrogen side, and im sill continueing recovery i dont want to mess with my body with extrenal hormones. also becaue the thought of beeing dependent on hormones would make me feel like an old man actuallyā¦