I have been reading alot about androgen resistence on this forum. Could this in a round about way mean that I my being able to get firm erections despite sub normal testosterone mean that I may not be totally screwed and I could potentially benefit well from TRT?
Thanks
Jan 27th
Had to take nearly a week off cos my last weight lifting session fucked me right up. Only today has my body felt normal. Should have taken it a bit easier on the first attemp but batism of fire and all that.
today
10 min stretching
Power cleans
18x 30kilo
1x 50 too heavy
8 x 40 to exhaustion
6 x 40 to ex
5 x 40 to ex
6 x 40 to ex
80 ab crunches consisting of 60 crunches and 20 alternate leg crunches
Squats
27 x 50 kilos (really good warm up)
11 x 75 kilos - too light
10 x 90 - better
10 x 90 - better again
7 x 90 - good - to exhaustion
80 crunches same as above
5 minutes stretching
Supplements
sustain alpha
vit d3 400 iu
creatine
superpump 250 x 2 scoops
Feeling pretty good.
Still no libido but I am happy that I can train hard despite no testosterone. No idea why
Ordering ball zinger tomorrow!
good luck with your weight lifting endeavours
in probably a year or so you will come back complaining of feeling tired all the time, which is not on your symptom list now
it is called “low cortisol” or “adrenal fatigue”
heavy weight lifting may increase testosterone but will not do it for you at those levels, i am sorry to bring such bad news
i know you’re gonna deny this (denial is an ugly thing, but will see you again in another year perhaps on another nickname)
what i would do is 50 mg clomid for a week and retest, if it goes higher your test, you’re golden
to do a correct restart you would need to add in support factors, so your hormones can be made successfully… i recommend after this trial, to start of with a 12.5 mg clomid regimen for 6 months to “restart” and add in “energy revitalization system” by enzymatic therapy… it’s a high dose multi POWDER with awesome reviews and contains all support factors in high doses
vitamin d alone took me from test 300 to test 500 levels
imagine if you add in other high dose vitamins perhaps you could end up at 600-700 if you’re not primary
then correcting adrenals and thyroid will be the last step
anyways whatever you do, goodluck and godspeed to you!
Don’t know why fatigue isn’t in my list of symptoms. It should have been. Fatigue is abating the more I train and rest properly already. After my workout last night I masterbated twice. Not cos I wanted to cos I could, rock hard erections. This I think my capability to do this for the first time was a result of almost a weeks rest after my last training session and superpump250 (awesome shit for energy) creatine, ornathin, arganine, lysine, sustain alpha and good diet.
Currently feeling pretty good.
@cumwakka I realise you mean no harm and you didn’t massively piss me off but it is very irritating when someone tells you that you cannot succeed as if it’s irrefutable fact. You cannot know that I will suffer adrenal fatigue. By the way I know about adrenal fatigue and I am taking measures to inhibite the possibility.
todays workout 28th January
10 min stretch
ABs
50 ab crunches 30 alternate leg crunches
Back
30 x 10 kilo single arm row left and right arm
7 x 28 left and right to exhaustion
6 x 28 l and r to ex
4 x 28 l and r to ex
4 x 28 l and r to ex
Chest - Bench press
23 x 20
8 x 50 to ex
6 x 50 to ex
6 x 60 to ex (machine)
7 x 60 to ex (machine)
Leg extension
20 x 20
13 x 50
10 x 60
8 x 60 to ex
8 x 60 to ex
Dips x6 to ex
usual supplements
ran out of D3
Obs - low libido, a.m erection this morning x2 random erections, improvement of flaccid hang (maybe) does seem fuller though shrank to nothing during workout as usuall
Morning erection today for the 3rd day running! Still low libdio. A few small spots on the back of my neck in my hair
I’d hate to burst your bubble, but by just lifting weights, youre not going to recover… You need to do further testing on cortisol, and thyroid hormones… Lifting weights makes me feel good though, ah la, a cortisol boost…
observation from yesterday. despite waking with am erection my balls were shrunken all day right up to when I went to bed. This morning they are dropped again!
Don’t understand why! Drank heavily last night!
I’d say given that your symptoms are not that severe and your T levels are terrible, it’s likely simply by raising your Testosterone you will see big improvements. As mentioned it’s unlikely you will be able to recover your T levels without medical intervention.
A competent endocrinologist will likely try a HPTA restart with clomid or something similar. If that doesn’t work they will probably put you on testosterone replacement.
Fucking weirdest thing. I weighed myself today and I am now 12 stone. Considering I must be dehydrated from drinking last night and I have taken a dump I must be slightly heavier. That means I have put on over 7 pound in just over a week. Also I have developed acne on my chest, shoulders, arms and around my mouth and I hardly ever get spots. My body is already starting to look more muscular which does usually happen to me quite quickly cos I used to weight train so I think I reform quickly. Anyway this indicates to me that my testosterone is rising.
The thing is though my balls are getting smaller and my sack is tight and libido is even worse than it was and I am now getting some ED. Anyone got a hypothesis on what the fuck could be going on! This is some scarey shit!
Dude, stop drinking… Its causes inflammation to your adrenals and nervous system…
First drink I had since new years and my balls were shrunken prior to drinking! It’s rare that I drink!
Come on guys help me out.
The one thing I have changed apart from obviously begining weight lifting and using sustain alpha is that I have stopped taking zinc.
Is it possible that the aromatase inhibitory properties of the zinc were helping and now I am gaining testosterone I am also gaining estrogen. I mean I am sure I am pushing test up and possibly quite quickly too as like I say I never get spots and they are all over me these last couple of days.
What do you reckon?
Hi guys.
Been lifting for a couple of weeks now and already stacked on 7lbs and got zits etc. Think testosterone has to be increasing.
Anyway not feeling tired at all which is good but very depressed and my balls have completely dissapeared. No ED has turned into significant ED and low libido has turned to no libido.
More test = more estrogen??
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Have you booked an appointment to see an endo?
You can’t really make assumptions about what your hormones are doing based on zits. Estrogen is as effective a bulking agent if not more so than testosterone, that’s why aromatizing steroids are generally used for bulking cycles while non aromatizing are used for cutting cycles.
I didn’t know that!
Booking endo appointment tomorrow. Don’t know how long I’ll have to wait. Will be getting another round of hormone results back this week some time. Unfrortunately they were taken prior to commencing weight lifting and some of my new supps
results came in
very low test
low lh
very low fsh
high estradiol
normal SHBG
AND LIVER ABNORMALITIES
plasma alt level 143iu (10-40)
total bilirubin 16g/L (0-20)
total protein 65g/L (61-79)
Liver
Protein 65g/L (61-79)
bilirubin 16umol/L (0-20)
ALT 143iu/L(37C) (10-40)
Plasma test 11.7nmol/L (10-27.6)
Estradiol 140pmol/L (73-172)
FSH 2.2iu/L (1.3 - 19…3)
LH 3iu/L (1.2 - 8.6)
SHBG 25nmol/L (10-50)
Thyroid
free T4 10.3pmol/L (7.5-21.1)
plasma TSH 2.00mu/L (0.34 - 5.6)
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you need free t3, and rt3, 24 hour cortisol test, preglogne and progrestrone…