@prop and proscarred are you recoving naturally or taking soemthing. Please advise.
me only with integrators and healty diet
better say that i’m fluctuating so right now i can’t claim any recovery
there was i week i was near to my old self, but as mew reminded me,
before claim anything the situation have to be stable at least for 6 months
the girth seems no doubt better than before and not fluctuate
just for compare our symptoms,
i usually eiaculate after long time stimulation
(during that now is normal hard)
but takes time to go up and also to go down
here i read PFS people with premature eiaculation, is that right?
I put myself firmly in the UP/DOWN group. In no two months have my symptoms been quite the same. While my testicles have looked worse and worse since i quit (end of Jan) my erectile function has (with lots of ups and downs) got a fair bit better. For almost two months may/june i was having sex, and good sex as well. The weird thing right now is that i’m experiencing gyno and mild brain fog ever since i had a little crash at the start of may. They say that erectile function is the thing most sensitive to the estrogen/testosterone balance, so why are my erections (while not normal in some ways) really not that bad? It takes a while to get things going sometimes but once im there it’s full on, my sex drive is also quite good, my penis is also relatively normal feeling in flaccid state. Yet because of my gyno and the state of my testicles i’m concerned that this can’t last. Things are either getting worse or better and i hope to God it’s the latter.
Good luck as always evry1!
all people with fluctuations have to write a diary, is good for monitoring and compare our situations
There is no need for a diary but i would be interested to see what the general condition of users of the forum are. It would also be interesting to see who has made even brief recoveries/ improvements and who hasn’t.
my longest period sides free amount in 2 months
i myself was near to say i’m at 96%, but bad period affected me.
with my fluct. diary u will be able to see if ther’s a logic in fluctuations.
in my case i can’t find out
You were feeling good for a whole 2 months!? wow.
here my diary of 2011
G=Good
B=Bad
From 1 jan to 16 was “good” - 15G
from 18 to 27 was “bad” - 10B
from 27 jan to 1 march “good” - 32G
from march 1 to march 11 “bad” - 10B
from march 11 to may 10 “good” - 60G
may 11G 5B 10G 5B
june 6G 10B 7G 7B
july 14G
Sequence
15G 10B 32G 10B 60G 5B 10G 5B 6G 10B 7G 7B 14G
i had a peek of good period from march to may
average of lasting bad period: 10 days
notice
bad period always anticipated by a lower belly discomfort
however the last good periods were “very good” compared to january good p
Wow. So you are fluctuating in weeks and months? that’s quite strange but also very encouraging for you. I would feel incredibly confused if i was feeling better for a whole month and then suddenly got worse again. The longest ‘good phase’ i had was for 1 single week - libido was high, decent erections and very good mood. Even then though, no nocturnal erections and extremely poor ejaculate quality and volume.
This week, i have seen the return on nocturnal and morning erections for the first time in months. However, my penis still feels like rubber and is very numb throughout the day, my libido is also low. What gives eh? 
Just before a ‘good phase’ things will often get very bad.
yes my friend, but this is the most devastating thing for morale
it’s like losing one leg and assist to a growth of a new one,
after one month u feel that u can plan again a normal life but the new leg suddendly fall…
again and again …
if i get rid of all of this, my spirit will be tempered
the stable improvement is the girth.
it’s not 100% as before, but i can accept it
I am sure it’s distressing. Whenever i feel a little bit better i start interacting more, i start thinking about my future, i check out new music and fashion, etc etc… The it all falls down 
I’m sure it’s very distressing, but try to appreciate the positive signs of the lengthy improvements. Whenever i feel good even for a day, i begin to interact more, i start thinking about my future (education/ job/ relationships), i check out new music and fashion and other interests of mine- that is, until it all falls down. A typical day in my life when i feel bad (most of the time) is forcing myself to get on with whatever i need to do in a given day, along with battling constant suicidal thoughts. Half the time i convince myself that this is just part of the plan in my life; i will recover within the next 2 years and i will be a better person because of this experience and eventually be happier than ever. But generally, i spend almost every waking hour feeling distressed over my condition, wondering whether at some point in the week it’s a god idea for me to become intoxicated using alcohol or whatever else may be available and throw myself in front of a train or throw myself off a building. At least then i would be relieving myself of the shameful and miserable life that i will lead if things don’t eventually get better.
It’s fucking tragic the way things have panned out.
we have to think positive, it’s the only thing that counts now.
however it’s easy to say and difficult to apply …
how long u r in our situation ?
you guys should be happy you see days with improvment. i am getting worse by the week. my wife got pregnany 14 weeks ago but we lost it. i hope to god low quality sperm or a defect caused it. she now wants to try again and i am physically unable to. i cant see her staying with me much longer. its sad how a cosmetic drughas ruined so many lives. i kind of wish this drug would kill me off and put me out of my devistation.
annon, nothing is sure in our improvements.
i was very confident but now no long good period.
don’t give up, in mid september we know more about our situation
i wish u (and us) the best
Hello prop, why did you say that in mid september we will know more about our situation?
Bye!!
look at awor thread
A promising research study is taking place and the results are due in september. From my understanding it will explain why numbness occurs and what changes have taken place to the skin on the penis. I am sure other things are being look at too. Either way it should answer some questions or at worse case rule out some others. Have a look at the post. Its soud svery promising and is whats keeping me going. That and the apparent temporary reversal of sides when smoking weed.
This.