i had my tests today,i have micoplasma pneumoniae.
just to let you all know.
So you had a fever, body pain, trouble breathing, and a dry cough? How is this connected to Propecia?
alright tried to keep quiet here for the whole summer but ill come out this one time. You don’t have Microplasma pneumoniae. Most likely your test results showed you had positive IGG and IGA anti-bodies to it which means you were exposed to it at one point in time, and your immune system has built up antibodies from it etc, NOT THAT YOU ACTUALLY have it. Do some research and you’ll realize what a crock of bs this whole thing is as 60% of the US population, that’s right 60%, has been exposed to CPN, and perfectly healthy people would test positive for it. Our problems are due to a disregulation of the HPA coupled with possibly an inflamed prostate, and run down adrenals causing most likely a neurological imbalance of some kind. do not listen to idiots on here and start taking tons and tons of anti-biotics for years and years.
Welcome Italysides…
This is the direct cause of your fatigue.
Search for the good CFS/ME clinic or a doctor. I do not want to advertise anyone so if you would like to get some help in finding one write a privat massage to me.
I have both chlamydia pneumoniae and myco. I take specified antibiotic pulses to kill these intracellular bacteria. It is very difficult, requires time but I do have a spectacular improvement within only one month and I am on a straight track to be 100% recovered within next months. The good news is that my sex drive is back and I do get spontanous erections which are approaching the one I used to have before this mess.
Our issues are bacterial in the most cases, but it needs time for you guys to understand that. The longer you will resist to get your tests, propably the greater possibility you will get serious health complications like sepsis, which is 50/50 for survival/non-survival.
What is the link… (someone asked) go and search what is the knowleadge about CFS/ME and mycobacterial infection. When Italysides will start his antibiotic journey he will obviosly tell you what is the link from the practical point of view, getting better errections and less fatigue from one week to another will be enough evidence for you.
Yes you are absolutely right but only half the way to the truth.
I explained you why in some previous posts.
Your infection would not evolve and your body would keep natural homeostasis If you did not mess around with your immune system using Propecia.
Unfortunetely you did and your body self deffence system did not protect you from bacterial abuse. You moved through the breakthrough point from which your body started focusing on your life-supporting functions only.
For some guys it is possible to recover by avoiding any forms of GMO addictives which have suppressive effect on immune defficient system. For others it is only possible while providing antibiotics to speed immune functions radicaly.
There is also a propability that you can heal immune disfunctions healing the brain itself by (Gabapentin, propably GHB) but I would not experiment on that.
Italysides I am proud you did this first step towards recovery.
Links:
GMO/Genistein immunosuppresive properties:
cat.inist.fr/?aMod…cpsidt=13844151
GMO/Genistein vs. Mycobacterium:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14738448
Healing immune disfunction:
i just have been to my doc and he exactly said what ithappens says…
my doc said me to don’t worry about…but everyone says me to don’t worry about all my problems i’m having from 3 years,so i would like to check it better but i don’t know what’s next step…
gottaproblem:
i think it’s better we’ll have private messages if it’s a problem for the people in the forum,for me it is the same…
i just want to check it better because i want to exlude evrything and arrive to the root of the problem…let me know.
bye
This is what most doctors will tell you except for… hmmm… look for that on your own, you will find one who will tell you something surprisingly different.
In the history of the world most people who finaly developed serious inovativions to the lifes of future generations were commonly rejected.
It was always about general disbelieve and jelousy towards their potental success in the field they were involved in.
The good thing is I am totaly satisfied about my living in terms of my carieer which realy surprises everyone that I deal with. In other words money and ambition is the least thing that I am concerned of while supporting the group on this forum.
I am here only to help you and try to support anyone in these tough moments without taking any chance to insult anyone.
I have been completely lost with my physical condition, now I am looking forward for the complete recovery, sitting on the bright side of the moon, which is directly opposite to the situation I was going through some months ago.
I put as much effort to solve and understand the source of my condition as I put to anything else in my life.
Honestly, from my current position it does not feel/sound like a big deal, but I do remember that I have been completely broken and suicidal. Unfortunetely not any more.
I wish you all recover and finaly understand what it is all about on your own and then, maybe you will take it for granted.
These are nothing more than unfounded scare tactics
Agreed that this is nothing more than fear mongering, based on one individual’s personal pet theory, which for the most part is unique to him only.
I don’t see people with HIV and other more serious auto-immune disorders dropping dead from CPN or many other disases right away. Many of them manage to live pretty normal lives while taking anti-viral drugs etc but have a severely compromised immune system. So propecia has compromised all of our immune systems to the point where CPN is allowed to spread through our bodies more so than HIV would allow it to? that’s rights keep sucking down the anti-biotics which if they help do so because they are potent anti-inflamatories. have fun
Getting more often spontanous erections from one day to another seems to provide some “fun”.
I am really happy that you do realize that there is inflammation going on… and yes - antibiotics have anti-inflammatory properties.
…you’ve ever considered what is the potential source of this inflammation(?), or you think it is due to propecia, which you stopped taking months ago…
Little digression.
One of the pneumoniae forms is inhibiting dopamnie release, Mew maybe you may find it interesting for yourself.
I don’t want to agree with anyone,i really don’t know nothing about pneumoniae issue but i have already written a post where i said that taking antibiotics makes me feel better and can have easier erections and harder…but i stil say that i really don’t know what is going on.
I don’t understand why but i had just IgG micoplasma pn. should i do IgM?
(antibiotics i’m using are for prostate but i think maybe they can help against inflamations generally)… just for this reason i’d like to check all better… pneumoniae too .
Pneumoniae is susceptible to wide variety of antibiotcs. It requires long time to regain you default cellular power. It is highly propable that pneumoniae is downregulating enzymatic activity, because it provides a possesive effect on cell. Disfunctional cell may lead to progesteron/cortisol cycle.
Long term antibiotic treatment breaks the cycle via antagonistic action to progestins and stops inflammation via cellular apoptosis.
It is very prommising that RU 486 will be a much faster remedy to this illness.
Why is this gottaproblem/majkellos still allowed to post on this site? He’s basically taken it over with all is nonsense progesterone, clamida/mycoplasma pneumonia, lime, and candida talk. It’s like he has a new retarded idea every week! Go back and look at all his posts for proof. When he first came here he was talking about how he first felt bad after taking Dusteride and thought 5AR was the cause. Then it changed to adrenal fatigue, then fatty liver, then on and on. This is a huge distraction and it’s making this site look absolutely loony. Now he’s taking tones of antibiotics and advising people to do it, too? I hope no one is stupid enough to take his advice. People come to this site for help, this guy comes to argue his ideas.
Pneumoniae affects many tissues the brain, liver, nerve system…etc. Before I finaly realized what is going on here I was making premature panic statements and claims (I do agree). Nevertheless I finaly got to the truth.
Candida is closely related to pneumoniae chronic infection. Prolonged immune disfunction and progesteron cycle leads to fungal infection and may end up with sepsis. I do not want to frighten you - I want to make you realize what can happen if you leave yourself with this compromised condition without a proper treatment.
You can cure pneumoniae providing long course of macrolid antibiotics which penetrate directly into cell.
I do not want to be offended by anyone else here, so if you would like to get anything more from me, just massage me on priv.
Umm Dude??
Look i don’t know if candida is for real or not but what i do know is if it does exist your cure for mycoplasm pneumoniae of taking antibiotics long term would not do it ANY GOOD AT ALL as that is the major reasons for contracting ‘candida’.
You are full of shit.
Hey gettalife, I mean, gottaproblem,
I don’t care if you are offended by what I say, as long as you continue to post your nutso ideas, I’m saying what I want. You ARE full of shit. You are not a doctor and what you are advising is DANGEROUS! You are obviously one of these freakishly obsessed Internet parasites that just latch on to certain forums and destroy them with trollish distractions. You ADMIT that you were wrong in the past but NOW you are right??? This admission alone should tell everyone how much of a quack you are! You have ZERO credibility and should be banned immediately, in my opinion.
Oh, and just so you know, mycoplasma pneumonia is called walking pneumonia here in North America and it’s a respiratory illness. You don’t contract it through taking Propecia and the symptoms have nothing to do with the sexual, mental, or hormonal problems any of us on this forum have.
markus,sorry but i dn’t think this is a good way to do… all on here doesn’t know what’s the problem going on with us and we 're just trying to figure something out…you can agree or not but don’t offende anyone.
at least this is my opinion …doing like this, you’ll make feel not appropiate and stop anyone that wants to write a new theory or idea cause he’ll be scared from comments .
I allow myself to write this my opinion just because this post has been opened by me.
Your perception seems to be as compromised as your mental and phisical condition.
I started from anti-fungal treatment alone taking many different medication to battle this condition. I changed my diet and continued it for 4 months to prepare myself to start antibiotic treatment. Now I am in the middle period of the whole treatment taking anti-fugal medication together with antibiotics. Within next two months I will be allowed to stop anti-fungal routin and will stay on antibiotics alone.
Hope it is not 2 difficult for you 2 understand.
I hope this isn’t too difficult 4 U 2 read:
mayoclinic.com/health/pneumonia/DS00135
Any doctor will tell you that taking prolonged courses of antibiotics is dangerous to your health. That’s why people who do have Lime disease have to sue for the right to use antibiotics for long periods of time. Doctors know it’s life threatening and don’t want to approve it. So keep on treating your self-diagnosed non-existent pneumonia with endless amounts of antibiotics. In the meantime, I’ll be eagerly awaiting your next brilliant “theory”, coming soon to a post near… me.