Cleaning out the cupboard… quite a 5 yr collection.
Looool
most fucked up of all possible worlds… 
You take all of this everyday and have no improvements at all? Because, i am planning to use some stuff from the picture…
Yeah I really don’t like to think how much I’ve spent on supplements, tests, and consultations. Well over £2,000 I reckon.
Off the top of my head:
Ashwagandha
Maca
Co-Q
Valproic Acid
Etifoxine
Low dose Naltrexone
Low dose prozac
St John’s Wort
Trilostane
High dose Vitamin D
Testosterone-Prop
Andractim
Masteron
Proviron
Winstrol
Turinabol
Andro-Hard
Andro-Mass
Andro-Enhance
Melanotan II
Progesterone
Tamoxifen
Aromasin
Letrozole
Calcium D-Glucurate
Memantine
T3
Adrenal Cortex
Zinc
Forsolkin
B12
Boron
Liver Support
Ox Digestive Enzymes
Minocycline
Anti-Fungal powder
GHB
Glycine
NAC
Folate
DHEA
Pregnelone
Tongkat Ali
Horny Goat Weed
Rhodiola
Funny thing is, I was actually put off Finasteride initially because of the cost. How much was it? £30 for three months supply? This fucking drug…
All of this everyday!? Ha, nooooo!
Some of those I took years ago and had one or 2 capsules and didn’t like the reaction. Just never got around to throwing them out.
Which of these had a good positive affect?
I’ve just ordered some of the same brand Tongkat Ali that I see in your picture.
Did the Tongkat work?
Which had a positive effect… Well, this picture is, believe it or not, not all the stuff I tried. I did throw some shit out in the past 5 years. Your question is complicated… Take the l’arginine and pycnongenol for example. When I first started to take 2g of l’arginine and 1 pycnongenol, it worked for improving erections. Then after a while it might lose effectiveness. Try the combo again a year or 2 later and I could have no improvement or even a step backwards. I could say the same thing for tribulus. I believe it helped me when I first came off propecia, but, then nothing later on.
I tried to take all those kind of products like tribulus, Catuaba, l’dopa, etc… The testosterone booster stuff in CDNuts thread (I think?). It might help me with faster orgasms and the feeling intensified… But, my penis would get an hourglass look every so often. Something I thought was over and done with years back. I’m not saying a certain product doesn’t work or may not work for someone else… Maybe I didn’t cycle, or didn’t take it long enough, or too low a dose, too high, combined it with the wrong thing, should of combined it with something else, etc etc etc.
We could literally try a million different things… and not to mention the Prostatitis Doctors, Naturopaths, etc.
Honestly, the only thing I would stick with is the Thorne B 12 Complex and see how you feel. If you get improved energy or if you feel like your head is buzzing. A good fish oil/omega 3 (found these starting to interrupt my sleep the last while, so take it earlier in the day). If you have problems with constipation take a 500 mg of vitamin c in the morning. If it doesn’t help, take a second in the afternoon. Doesn’t work, double up one or both doses. That’s if you don’t have any sort of bad reaction to vitamin c. I’m very regular these days and it’s an easy unload, too.
The tongkat Ali was not worth it for me. I would take cialis 10mg with vitamin c. It eases the headaches and gives more of a feeling to your penis than just cialis.
I’ve thrown in the towel though on finding the ultimate combination of pills, vitamins, food, and will let the research dictate the treatment. It’s under way. Just hang on a little.
Yes, if any of this mess was going to be resolved by vitamins and supplements, we wouldn’t all be here right now. After years and years of accumulated experience, people still seem to believe that a vitamin from Walmart is going to somehow solve their complex, systemic health problem.
This problem will only be solved through the research studies.
I agree but I’m sure there must be some supplements that can aid PFS or make our symptoms so what less impactive on our lives
If anyone is going to get tongkat or trib get it from world abs.
That’s the website CDnuts got his tongkat and trib from.
I purchased both products recently from the world abs website.
I noticed the best improvements sense this started for me from those products. They deff both increased my gonads plus increased loads.
More energy on both as well. I took them both every day for two weeks combined with DHEA and felt like my sexual function was good enough to be in a relationship. Was still deff struggling but if I could just be at that level I could manage.
I got pains where my liver is and also lost my job. So I had to stop taking the sups for both of those reasons. Job loss for me means possibility of needing to go in the military which means I don’t want to be use to feeling good on these herbs.
Anyways as soon as I get my stuff straight I’m going right back on the tongkat and trib from world abs but this time I’m going to rotate them in some type of cycle. Hopefully I can also get a 2 week juice fast in before going back on them.
But they are deff both the best supletments i have tried thus far