There’s just no need for this. Channel the time and energy spent typing these negative posts that pollute the forum towards meditation or constructive information sharing. Moderators??? Why are we allowing the infighting?
Hi Andy,
Have you continued this procedure? What are your findings so far?
Thanks
G
Hi gham
I’m fairly sure the LM reduced my libido, the immediate benefits inc lower anxiety and improved cognitive/memory function. Apart from the neuro protective benefits it could hinder our progress if it’s affecting DHT.
Ya, I don’t care about libido. I just want my brain back.
So, you think it might be more harmful than helpful in the long run? I just bought some, so I might try it for a week or so. Sounds like it wasn’t a cure-all for you.
Also, I was wondering, are there any negative impacts from taking pregnolone for an extended period of time? I hope it’s not like propecia and a crash or something. When I take very small amounts of it, it seems to help.
I’ve been using it for 3-4 months. It helps a bit for intellectual work, and it doesn’t seem to affect me sexually. But I have to say that essiac makes a bigger difference for mental sides, although in that case, it does seem to affect libido. I have no idea why it helps, but I am functional with it and I even feel a tingling in my brain, so it apparently has some effect there.
Another thing you might want to try for mental function is pycnogenol.
Pregnolone has worked for me in doses of 100mg or 50mg which I took for about 9 months Mon-Fri with the weekend off, I know some guys who take it 3 days on and 1 day off. Preg helped with memory loss, I’ve stopped to work on another protocol. It depends where you are with your PFS, I have very low T so I need all the DHT I can find. You could try nootropics longecity.org/forum/topic/54 … fectively/
Oh, I didn’t realize you were suppose to stop taking it for a couple days and then start up again. Have you ever stopped taking it for a long period of time, like a month? If so, was there a crash?
essiac and pycnogenol are new to me.
I’ve been off a month, I haven’t crashed with preg I’m sure it just tops up your current levels. Dr Hertoghe writes about Preg in his book, it’s the mother hormone, although it didn’t do a lot for me.
Ya, it feels “feminine” somehow when you take it. It’s weird, but that’s what it feels like to me.
I was saying in a different post, that towards the end of the day I seem to get a “brain fry flare up”. I tried taking a very small amount of melatonin (like dust shavings, or a very small shard) and it seems to offset it a bit. It makes you tired, but it’s better than the brain fry feeling.
I’m still waiting on the lions mane. I’ll report back once I start taking it. Prob won’t have much of an effect, but who knows.
got lion mane pills in… taken two…
Good luck with your protocol, let us know how you get on.
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well the lions mane hasn’t given any noticeable benefits yet… but no bad sides either.
Here’s a few things I use that have really helped with brain fog, tiredness and mental focus. They really do work but are allegedly mild DHT inhibitors. Personally, I don’t feel worse since using these products, I’ve had no crashes during their month of use. It maybe worth having your DHT measured before and after use to see if they affect you in that way but one things for sure these supplements make a difference. The effect physically on cognitive function and general well being is much better than Lions Mane. I would like to use these daily but because of the DHT element, I take them several times per week instead. I was using 3000mg of Flax Seed Oil capsules spread out over the day for months, this helped with cognitive function, tiredness but the MCT oil is even better and works very quickly.
PVL Essentials 100 Percent Pure MCT Oil 1 Litre (use 1/2 teaspoons per drink, I’ve tried using a 1 tablespoon like recommended but it’s too strong a hit, I find it a much smoother experience using teaspoon measurements)
Check out Bulletproof’s range of brain oils, I don’t drink their coffee obviously
Extra Virgin Coconut Oil (spread this on toast with almond butter or put in a hot drink) - I was using this oil for about 6 mths during the early days of PFS before I knew I had the condition
Lucy Bee EVCO is delicious and best tasting oil on toast, RealFoodSource EVCO is a cheaper, effective alternative
Mix with
Teeccino, Mediterranean Herbal Coffee (Caffeine Free)
Madre Labs, CocoCardio (I only use half the recommended serving as this is plenty, it should last 2-3 mths)
I include stevia, honey, maple syrup, organic sugar, or kerrygold butter (grass fed) to sweeten. The use of butter is a recommendation from Bulletproof and it has to be grass fed butter, hence they use kerrygold.
For sleep which I link in with cognitive function one thing I’ve experimented with lately with some success is the yantra mat otherwise known as an acupressure mat. The concept is based on the bed of nails which you may have seen meditation gurus using. It takes about a week to get used to the mat, I started with short sessions of 10 mins at bedtime. I find it’s helped with backpain and relaxation. I tend to sleep better if I’ve used the mat before bedtime. Basically, once I’m done I just throw the mat out of bed or put it underneath the bed and then I’m ready for sleep. I tend to have deeper sleeps and maybe sleep an hour or two longer than I usually do. I typically sleep 4 hours a night so sleep is a big challenge for me. I also have spells of insomnia so I’m hoping the mat will help me break these cycles when they occur. With the mat I’m sleeping around 5 maybe 6 hours at night and I’m not waking up around 2AM, although it’s still not enough for me personally. Maybe over a period of months the mat will help my overall sleep cycles, the goal is to sleep around 8 hours and be able to achieve a deep sleep over that period. If I sleep lightly for 4 hours which is ofter been the case with my PFS then my eyes tend to sting upon waking and throughout the day, are bloodshot and I feel heavy and run down. Apparently, the mat helps release endorphins and offers some of the benefits of acupressure, there’s a science aspect behind it’s development. It’s best to use the mat against bare skin, they are all basically about the size of your back. So, the mat will start at the base of your spine and reach the top of your shoulders. I have the brand name Yantra Mat which is one of the more expensive mats, I chose this because it achieves around the highest number of acupressure points, can be washed if needs be and comes in my preferred colour black. You can also use the mat with a chair or sat relaxing in a reclining position so it doesn’t just have to be used at bedtime.
I started drinking coconut water in the morning. This seems to help. I only drink 2 cups of it, because anything over that can have a negative impact on your kidneys and overall health. I think 2 cups in the morning wakes me up like tea.
what’s the verdict on this? also, andy I noticed you said you had been using progesterone, your experience?
Prog made me worse not better, my Endo said it could shut me down and cause certain symptoms of PFS, the only guys I know who take it everyday are on TRT and they use it to control estrogen.