Limbo state

Moderation> please don’t move this post to member story, i tell about me to explain the limbo state and ask for help.

Hi all,

It has been a long time since i posted on this forum. Yes, i am alive. No, i have not recovered. Sexually i improved a lot, almost normally physically (not all sensations though). But the damages this drug did to my body seem to be long lasting. Just to update what i did in terms of treatment all these years: Natural food, moderate exercise, few benzodiazepine medications two times in six years (for about 2 months each). I never took GHPR6 i got scared, i never tried any crazy treatment. I used some prednisone a few times in an attempt to stop my immune system from attacking my body. It only worked for a few times. So basically this is my reality after 9 years of Post Propecia Syndrome:

  1. Over active immune system. I have no doubt PFS has an autoimmune component. But in my case, who had a few allergies prior to finasteride, it has reached amazing levels. It is a lot of work to keep my immune system “calm”. It is exausting, it is a lot of sacrifice as far as diet and other restrictions and still i lose the battle many times.

  2. A “blah state” that continues. It is like whatever. I don’t care, things don’t excite me but at the same time i am not depressed. I can only imagine i don’t release as much oxytocin as before. And to think i have more 40 years living like this is awful.

  3. It has been 9 years since i developed PFS. It has taken a toll on my body, specially my stomach. Because of my over active immune system i have developed some kind of autoimmune gastritis that i can only control so much and i never really get rid of. This has taken a toll on my body, i simply can’t eat like before, or it is an unbearable pain. It is not like a regular gastritis, the doctor sees little inflammation, but i am screaming in pain. Somehow i feel much more inflammation than my body shows. The result is i have lost a lot of weight and this makes me sad and a little weak.

  4. The fourth tragedy in my life is financially and professionally. This syndrome has destroyed my career, my work power and i am poor and dependant financially at 36 yo like i never thought i could be. I was so successful. It makes me sad. So it brought me to a financial and professional limbo as well, not only physical. Think about suffering in all areas of your life. I am feeling useless today and it is not a good feeling.

So the question to you guys is: how do you keep going? I have been on automatic mode for so long that i don’t remember how it is to feel excited, to have a drive for something. At the same time this state makes me feel empty. I keep getting the same question in my mind: What is the point?

So about you guys> How do you keep going? What for? Ok, for relatives, for family not to suffer, etc, etc… What about our suffering? Why do i have to sacrifice for everybody not to suffer as they are living their lives? What really is the point? At the same time, how do i end this? Why does this shitty disease doesnt kill me beyound any control that i can have. Because my impulse is preservation. I can’t F change this. Even taking this f medication was a preservation impulse. About 2 years ago, at my lowest point when i first got the atrophic gastritis, my weight went down to 109 pounds (i am 5 10). Now i am 132, but far from my regular weight at 150.

So when i was really skinny at 109 pounds, and screaming in pain as the gastritis treatment wasnt working, i rented an apartment without anyone knowing, and had a plan of simply stop eating. I would die in a week or so because i was already so weak. I was suffering so much, so much, so much pain, that i could not go on. All i wanted was to sleep and not wake up. But then i woke up one day with that preservation impulse once again and i could not do it. I woke up that day with a portuguese song in my head that the lyrics basically say “Try one more time”. It wasnt playing anywhere, just in my head.
I am so tired today, and still i keep going. I hope in 10 or 20 years from now i am not a zombie. So this is the limbo state. It is like walking in circles, i improve, then get worse again, then fight to improve, the worse again, like a dog trying to catch its tail.

Sorry to bother you guys and to bring the energy down, but believe me, to come here and post is because i am at a low point today. As much as try not to come here and forget about this all, i needed today to come here and vent out.
Thank you very much, hope everyone is having better days.

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Hi Just wanted to say that I feel your pain I to am in my 6th year and besides the gastric problems you have our stories mirror each other. But one thing is I will never give up trying to beat this I will try anything within reason to restart my body as I believe it is possible. The human body is an amazing thing its us that abuse it and its hard to get it back. I would love to go back to my former days and I have every reason to believe it is possible.
Please do not give up on yourself keep trying to find a way listen to your body and figure it out. I have tried everything over the years and read other peoples efforts so I can come up with a plan.
I now know without a doubt we have to keep the gut healthy.
We have to keep a our T up natural herbs and estrogen down natural herbs
Keep blood flowing to the genitals natural herbs.
Keep the autoimmune response down inflammation natural anti inflammatory
Keep the thyroid and metabolism going.
I concentrate on these things and try different products until one does the trick and hope that the combination one day will be what my body needs to repair itself.
Yes I have spent thousands trying to do this but I will never give up on myself and you should not to. I hope you find some peace in all this.
If you check out Brazilianguy he is also trying to find an answer and he speaks on skype maybe he can help you with some of the ideas he has.
One day Merck will answer to the many lives they have destroyed with this drug and it saddens me every-time I see a young guy on here fall victim.
I hope you keep trying to have the life you deserve mate.

Hi Gazzaa,

Thanks for the input. I am feeling better now, it was just a dark day and thank God these are rare. Thanks for the advices, i will always keep trying, in the end i always do.