Life completely destroyed

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Where are you from (country)?
The Netherlands

How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
Google

What is your current age, height, weight?
29, 200cm, 83kg

What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)?
Finasteride, minoxidil, procapil

What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
1mg 3x a week, minoxidil for 2 weeks and procapil for a few weeks.

What condition was being treated with the drug?
MPB

For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)?
8 months

Date when you started the drug?
october 2022

Date when you quit the drug?
July 2023

Age when you quit?
29

How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
cold turkey

How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects?
After stopping

What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

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Sexual
[ ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ ] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[X] Loss of Morning Erections
[X] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[X] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[X] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
[X] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[X] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[X] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ ] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[X] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[X] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[X] Testicular Pain
[X] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[X] Muscle Weakness
[X] Joint Pain
[X] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[X] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[X] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[X] Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
[ ] Hearing loss
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[X] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)
Pain in groin, nerve pains, cracking joints, severe dry mouth and eyes.

What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug? Doxycycline, multivitamins and fish oil

If you have pre or post-drug blood tests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (please post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?

Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience?

Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

So I started this drug in 2022 to limit my hairloss for a while. While on the drug, I was fine. Maybe a little depressed and my erection quality was a bit worse, but nothing too serious. I decided to quit because I wanted to start minoxidil instead of finasteride. A week after I had stopped I noticed some sexual dysfunction that would continue for about 2 months. I also noticed my skin became very dry at some point. The symptoms continued for almost three months and then I felt fine for a few weeks. Then I crashed and all the symptoms came back. Since that moment I have been worsening every week. I have nerve pains, muscle pains, my joints are cracking all over my body, my gums started to recede, I’m having a hard time eating because I feel nauseous after eating.

I have always been a very healthy, hardworking guy who enjoyed life while travelling, doing sports, working, studying. Now it’s all gone. I am disgusted what this drug has done to me and I’m thinking of killing myself every day.

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I just had my fin crash around the same time you did. Let’s hang in there. Most people seem to improve some. Some people recover entirely, and research is making huge progress. Feel free to message me.

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I’m in the same boat man
Except in am middle aged and took saw p for prostate health for fucks sake

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Update

To this day, the joints all over my body are cracking all the time including my spine. I have pain from them as well. The connective tissues in my body are deteriorating very fast. Do I have the same problem as @Konflict had?

In the past weeks a new problem arised, I have nerve pain, tingling and numbness in my limbs, which gets worse when I do repetitive tasks like using the computer. I went to the neurologist today and he didn’t think the problem is neurological but has to do with connective tissues and muscles which make my nerves get trapped. Will get tested for carpal tunnel syndrome next month.

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Hi Jezzeh, I have similar symptoms after 3 and a bit months, will post a member story soon.

I’m going to see a rheumatologist in 2 weeks as this feels more like a connective tissue disease, which can vary in severity. I guess we can hope as relatively newbies that our bodies will rebuild at some point.

While I’m going to avoid any serious supplementation, I did see an encouraging article about a woman with EDS (a similar condition) who used Vit C but again I’m VERY wary of supps after seeing the horror stories online. Might be one for the future though. Would love to think the natural way is best but I would probably take every other symptom over not being able to f’ing walk! So the nuclear option of HCG/TRT might be necessary for muscle/tissue growth. I will discuss this with my endocrinologist and let you know. I have also emailed a endo in Ireland who was recommended by PFS network,

In the meantime I am testing everything from SIBO/leaky gut etc (I have tested positive for h pylori which I need to address somehow) to zinc before I supplement anything else. My Vit D is on low side of normal so leaving that alone for now. I starting taking Ashwaganda before Fin and I think stopping that a few weeks caused a crash, hopefully not permanent.

Let’s see if we can help each along the way. Stay strong.

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