I’m 29yrs old, 179cm and 70kgs and in the UK. Before i took propecia i had a very very high sex drive, i loved sex, orgasms, and anything to do with women and pornography. I had a very active sex life and I could not get enough. I have some detailed blood tests which have been done at different stages since coming off fin, they show the damage done over time.
I do not take any supplements, herbal rememdies, vitamins etc. I have never taken steroids. The only thing i take is a teaspoon of pure cod liver oil every day. I would say my general health is neutral meaning that there is nothing else affecting my results eg. lifestyle, supplements, alchohol
Note my monster estrogen level, huge progesterone, low testosterone. I am very lean with little body fat, i do not smoke and drink only very occasionally. I now eat a ‘super’ healthy diet, lots of fruit veg nuts meats and things like avocados, i think this is why my LH is good.
I took propecia after a trip to the Belgravia centre in London. I took it for exactly 2months September 2005 - November 2005, that was 1mg of propecia each morning. It fucked me up and i began looking at women as friends and not in a sexual way!
I lost my erections, no morning erections and my cum turned to water. So after 2months i stopped. It took a few months but things seemed to revert close to back to normal however i did not have anything like the same libido and drive as i did before taking propecia.
1year later i was away travelling in South east asia, when i first arrived i filled my boots and had some enjoyable encounters with girls but thats when my problems were highlighted, i started to notice a big drop in my interest in sex, my erections were not as firm and my orgasms were not as intense. Whereas i used to shag, cum, then soon want to shag again this was no longer the case. It felt like my libido was 10% of what it used to be. I just wasn’t horny anymore like i had been since the age of 15.
I also developed a hard lump around my left nipple which was ultrasounded and diagnosed as a cyst or gyno, this went down after 2 weeks. But my left pec now had fatty tissue on it, a bit of a bitch tit, only the left not the right, i couldn’t understand this because i was in good shape and nowhere near fat, yet a had a bitch tit! (even though i am very lean now i still have my slight bitch tit!)
I slowly started to put 2 + 2 together and come up with propecia. I returned to uk a few months later unhappy and confused and not very horny. That was 12 months ago now.
In the last year things have gotten worse. For the last 9months i have started having to get up once or twice every night to urinate. My bladder never feels like it is emptying and my flow is restricted. Prostate trouble at 29! I have had 2 more hard lumps around my left nipple which have gone down after a 7-10 days, my libido now feels like only 3% out of 100. Little/weak or no morning erections. General fogginess and mild depression i suppose. Sexually i’m just a long way from the way i used to feel. My orgasms are weak and unsatisfying, more of just a warm feeling.
Here are my results: These are all i have at the moment. I will pursue more tests such as free test/dht. I went to see an nhs endocrinolist. i put together some medical literature taken from this site and left it with him. He said he would have an open mind and look at it objectively.
The progesterone level clearly shows that fin has damaged my 5 alpha as 5Alpha converts progesterone to allapregnanalone…this is not happening so i have MASSIVE progesterone build up…on top of that progesterone is a potent inhibitor of 5 alpha which is making things worse, A VICIOUS CIRCLE.
Stopped propecia Nov 2005
Feb 2006:
Testosterone 19.1nmol/L(550ng/dl) - range 9-40 (259-1152)
Nov 2007:
Testosterone 17 nmol/L (489ng/dl)
SHBG 18.6 nmol/L - range 10-80 nmol/L
March 2008:
Testosterone 13.5 nmol/L (389ng/dl)
Prolactin 141 mU/L - range 88-442 mU/L
LH 6.0 iu/L - range 1.5-9.3 iu/L
Oestadriol 143 pmol/L (38.95pg/ml) - range 10-150 (2.72-40.86)
Progesterone 6.9 nmol/L (2.169ng/ml) - range 0.5-1.5 (0.16-0.47)
I would really appreciate your thoughts, i will let you know when as soon as i have dHT tests etc. Hypo, majekklos and mew and everybody i hope this adds another piece to the jigsaw. Its great to see the scientific progress being made by you guys, keep your chins up! We will get there!!
Personally in my case i clearly need to lower progesterone and estrogen to allow my testosterone to flourish. I don’t want to take drugs. I’m going to the gym most days and working more on weights to see if that boosts my test.
Thanking you in anticipation