Jack Evans is Rockin!

I can’t post pics of my erections (don’t want all the prostat massagers to masturbat to it).

I can post pics of my stomach before I quit the shampoo with Tea Tree oil in it and pics of stomach 3 wks after. This change was due to normal diet and no excercise. No special diet of broccolli or anything. No prescription/supplements taken. No visits to the gym (well i did go once but realized weight was falling off by itself). Still have a little way to go with regards to losing stomach fat…but 3 weeks and wow what a difference! No more bloating. No more lethargy. Libido slowly returning. Erections much easier to attain and much stronger.

Jack



As promised…some other pics to show difference.



Dude, you sound like a tool !!!

ur just upset i didn’t post pics of my better erections so u can masturbate to it while massaging your prostate!

happy hiking on the appalachian trails guy. make sure u update the forum that ur symptoms are improving cuz of ur 250 mile hike and how it healed ur prostate.

Continueing to get better and see results in weight loss. I have started to work out again as my motivation is much higher, just doing weights…no cardio yet. I’ll do that in Feb when I want to start getting cut.

Libido is not in full swing, however erections much easier to get and ejaculate has some force behind it rather than globbing out.

It’ll be 15 wks tomorrow since I discontinued the Tea Tree oil shampoo.

Just thought I’d post if anyone’s interested.

Jack



When you were bloated, and having problems down there, did you ever feel like there was an infection of some sort? E.g. you say your ejaculate has a little force behind it now, when before it “globbed out”. When it globbed out, did this feel like there was congestion or infection or what not, that eventually went away Jack once you quit the tea tree oil ??

And btw, I’m definately not suggesting a prostate infection, I’m thinking something more like lower abdominal. You said “bloating” which is usually caused by some sort of infection or blockage… right??

never felt like i had any infection or any type of congestion anywhere in my stomach or crotch/prostate area.

the bloating was most likely caused by excess estrogen (which was confirmed in my labs where Total Es were above max range by 10%…small but still over). Once I discontinued the shampoo I have been less and less bloated. i am no longer bloated like before. occassionally i get ‘backed up’ and alittle constipated cuz i didn’t drink enough water or ate too much processed foods…but that’s rare and always correlated to diet.

tea tree oil was tested and confirmed to mimic estrogen on tissue and also block androgen receptors. i continue to see improvements with overall erections, morning wood, and ejaculate…so i think some more time will get me to where i was prior to the shampoo…which was a normal healthy sexual male.

jack

I know this is gonna sound irrelevant and I’m gonna get bashed for this, but do you think Tea Tree might be good against hair loss for the reason of blocking androgen receptors?

Why would you ask that? Tea Tree oil got me on this forum with the rest of you…cuz i originally thought it was finasteride that caused my issues.

Regardless, no, i don’t believe tea tree oil does much for hair loss. It was in the the hair thickening shampoo i used cuz it was said to help hair retain water.

Jack

Jack has requested via email that I post the following photos he took January 7 2008, showing his progress since discontinuation of Tea Tree Oil shampoo.

He cannot post them himself since he is currently banned from this forum for rude behaviour.


Jack states:

"Ok, you are right. I continued to be a dick on the board cuz I felt like others were just making things up or
blaming everything on Fin.

Who knows, maybe it was Fin that caused my issues after 8yrs usage and now it’s resolved. I have taken measures to help myself.

Please look at my current pics to show the results of my regiman and pls post for the Fin board to review. If they are interested they can contact me via email at rockin813@yahoo.com

my before pics are in my recovery post. i think u will agree that i’m doing something right.

Thanks"






Hey guys, its me Jack Evans. I sent a PM to Mew asking if I could get back on forum. In meantime created a new acct as old one is banned. Hopefully I’ll be able to stay on so I can share my experience first hand with you all.

As u may recall I feel (and Dr confirmed) that Tea Tree oil is what created my hormonal imbalance…Low T/LH/FSH and high Total Estrogens (estradiol always normal).

So in past I tried Testim and after 10 days stopped cuz I didn’t feel any better and wanted to do more ‘research’ prior to starting TRT (look on yahoo fin board for my posts on 10/31/05 under rockin813). anyway my own T prod’n must have kicked in cuz a few days later all my symptoms were gone and balls were huge…i had like 10 ejaculations over the wknd. anyway i relapsed back into prior issues…constipation/bloating/shrunken penis/low libido.

So once I stopped the Tea Tree oil a lot of those symptoms are gone with exception of low T and low LH…my fsh actually went up and i got my wife pregnant again…we’ll have two kids under two come this Feb.

Anyway, look at recoveries post for Jack Evans is Rockin…comment about me using Steroids is absurd.

So, after a year with no T rebound my Dr gave me a shot of 4000iu HCG to see how much my T would rise…I went from 268 to 854 (range of 250-1593)…so about 500 or so on the normal 241-847 range i guess. either way that’s only one shot of hcg. continued usage would have gotten me higher. I felt much better and libido/erections much better.

Dr now wants me on TRT Testim to replicate my last experience…get my T levels high and then ween off for my own prod’t to start. Believes my body needs to get used to higher T levels so it will maintain that level on its own…my pit gland is fine and testes work great. also higher levels of T will help burn some pockets of fat that may still have Tea Tree oil in the cells which could be keeping my LH low.

Last time I took 5g of Testim daily after 10 days my E2 was at 17 rr <54 so no conversion issues.

So today was my 2nd am of applying 5g of Testim. Placebo effect right now of feeling positive…will report any physical positives as they come.

Take care
Jack

Jack, if you could quickly bring people up to speed as to how you got to the place you are now it would be appreciated (ie, Finasteride use). I don’t think anyone has your history noted down.

As for “rejoining” the site, just be aware that I will be monitoring things, as always… you know what you did last time so please do not make the same mistake twice. Thanks.

Hi jack.

Even tho i havent been around for a long time till recently i still remember you and the tea tree oil.

Good luck on the gel hope things improve and keep us upd.

can u remove my ban for the IP addresses i used earlier?..so i can post from work as well as home?

will update my story in the member section.
i only want back on to share my journey…wont post any negative comments to other folks.

thx.

Unfortunately I do not know which IP yours is as I did not keep a log file at the time of banning. So if you can tell me, maybe I might be able to find it.

I remember jack evans and the coco oil. But jack did you use finasteride like the rest of us?? Pls clarify that coz i dont understand mews reason for writing this

All

Yes I used Finasteride. I used for close to 7 years withoutever experiencing a side effect…and it worked. i repeat and emphasize i never once felt a side effect of low libido/gyne/etc…looking back the only possible side effect could have been weight gain but more likely that was college and beer.

anyway, out of the blue i started experiencing erection issues which are now better described as low libido issues and thus poor erections (they were forced and not natural)…anyway this continued for 5 months before seeing a dr who drew labs and saw my T was barely above min range. with that he checked the rest of the recomended blood tests and all normal. we decided to quit propecia (even though he didn’t think it was the cause as i was on it for so long)…4mos post propecia T remained around the same…slightly higher but not worth noting…symptoms still remained.

so after 2.5 years of dabbling and such w/supplements and even TRT i found a link regarding Tea Tree oil (and lavender oil) mimics estrogen…and confirmed via New England Journal of Medicine. this was confirmed on human cells. here is a link http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/jan2007/niehs-31.htm

looking back…about 3 months before this shit all hit me i started using a new tea tree oil shampoo…and used it DAILY until the day i saw this link. it was a thickening shampoo so like most of you i did what i could to help my hair so i didn’t miss any days using the shampoo as i thought it would help thicken my hair. as i continued to use i started gaining more unexplained weight (this is well after college now and while eating healthy and working out i still was getting fat), constipation, bloated belly, low libido, low LH/FSH/T levels…all the while normal Estradiol (total Es were higher than max range but no dr interested).

so again, once i saw the link i stopped the shampoo that day and took pics and posted in my recovery log…here it is propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=751

no, i never used steroids or any weight loss supps for that matter.

so my symptoms went away within a few months…however my T hasn’t rebounded yet after 1.5 years. a Dr has now did a HCG test and confirmed my Testes work fine. he has me on Testim with hopes to get my T levels up and then ween off to see if my own body can start producing.

so much more…ask away if interested.

Jack

hi

Trt is going to slow your own production down, what do you think of this?

Eventually your body will stop producing test lh fsh, the longer it stays like this, the harder to get it going again i think.

Why not go for clomid/nolva, or have you been there?

Your doc thinks you,re body needs to get custom to high levels.
thats Interesting.

, how is your lifestyle? do you eat right, work out? mental status

How long will you be on test, and hcg, how good is your doc?

i think my dr is pretty good.

i tried clomid…felt boated and uneasy. same with tamox.

hcg was short term was just to see if my testes actually work…which was confirmed they DO.

i am only planning on testim for 10 days…then stopping. today is day 9…no improvement. however i do feel bloated…no this isn’t estradiol cuz i felt the same last time i took testim and after 10 days had labs drawn and estradiol was perfect. its just water weight due to hormones being altered if u will.

again, last time i stopped taking testim the bloating stopped and it was as if my own T kicked in…balls huge and libido soaring for a good 5 days.

if this doesn’t work than i’ll go back to tamox and do it with a little more patience this time.

Ive had similar reaction to you with trt. I did feel bloated too. My E2 levels were also low >20 even tho i was bloated and even tho my chest hurt…

A possibility could be that altho e2 is not very high it could be higher than b4 trt and T level could actually have decreased. Wich would mean that estrogen ratio increased.

That would also explain why u felt good when quiting as your own natural T kicked in, im not saying this is the case but lots of guys who have semi low t have even lower levels after gels.

Or like u say it could be just from changing hormones and as such could dissapear even with continued usage of trt as the body adapts.

Anyways keep us informed and good luck