Im much better after 6 months

Adding oats to my diet has helped dramatically for sleep. Like 100g at the evening. At this moment only the sexual sides and diarrhea. I can get hard from porn but dick is not like before.

15 months: 90% recovery:
Like 95% time I am able to have normal erection. I am able to sleep fully normal. The only thing is I have to pee in the morning (not dramatic but I didnā€™t before fin). I eat pretty normal, I avoid unhealthy food an 5ar-shit. I dont have anymore diarhea but my shit is now somehow yellow. My dick is also somehow semi-hard almost always (maybe something with kegel muscles and bloodflow?) Still suffer from cold body temperature and I am not sweating like before.
I never had muscle loss so I am not severe sufferer. But I had penile shrinkage and impotence so not very mild.
Also my t-levels were 11 nmol year ago, now 22 nmol.
I am somehow losing my beard. Do anyone have safe tips?
Hopefully recovery sticksā€¦

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Still ā€œrecoveredā€. Erection quality is not 100% but who cares. Intermittent fasting and gym are definitely important.

Still not losing hair :grimacing:

Any idea could L-arginine and L-carnitine be bad for me?

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what do you mean by lifestyle changes exactly?

Get out of bed and live your social life. Going out often, connect with your families. Stuff like that.

I notice this like you did with the mouthwash thing far out when something makes me worse it also tends to be in that 3-5 day range for recovery to my previous baseline. I never eat chocolate but I was consuming sun flower oil in my dinner often and I did cut it out some months back and am now consuming as little seed oils as I can help, may have helped progress wise long term but I canā€™t really tell. Any kind of carbs are fine with me but I notice potato tends to set me back ED and libido wise if I have too much for some reason. Whatā€™s really interesting is that gluten isnā€™t capable of crashing me though, I feel worse in general on it and have been sensitive to it throughout my life but it doesnā€™t really touch any elements of this condition of all things. Also started eating asparagus myself more often but I canā€™t really tell if itā€™s actually doing anything in the background and if it is itā€™s pretty subtle. I drink coffee every morning and have been almost the entire time, when I crashed for a while I was drinking yerba mate every morning but switched back to coffee. Not sure how long I was drinking the yerba mate for though. Whenever I eat land meat I feel terrible so I only consume seafood occasionally and am largely vegan. Had issues with land meat before this happened but post PFS it only got worse.

I know just living my life helped a lot too and it wasnā€™t fun at first but like you believe too it works to do it anyways even if you barely feel human. Itā€™s probably crucial in recovery and I went into this in my own journal here on LTP and memory signalling cascades which might be an explanation at a baseline for why a lot goes on with this condition and related. I actually weaponized porn and hypersexuality in my case because I was before. I would simply look at it and try to get aroused the best I can but not masturbate often, just get a pattern going to continually potentiate a neural pathway excitory action and then when I finally felt enough Iā€™d give myself that release. This period of build up would much earlier last literally weeks before I had enough actual desire to do it at all. It was horrible and the entire time I could feel nothing towards anyone sexually or romantically besides when seeing someone I know I was attracted to this very vague sense of it, it felt so dehumanizing. I noticed that with me there is a body regulatory shift that is more profound after the second orgasm with a break in between (maybe an hour or so, donā€™t know if this makes a different and I donā€™t know if this happens with others but I know some have played around with orgasm frequency based changes before) and Iā€™ve been also using that mechanism whatever is at play there to test things.

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@Dysfunkion I read you posts with interest, can I ask have u provided your story inclusive of timeliness and experiences of protocols etc to date. Thanks in advance.

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When I first typed all of that up (not sure if you know I did its the "my saw palmetto nightmare) it was the best I could do from what I remember I did unfortunately, I just remembered the general sequence and vague ideas of how long I did each thing. I didnā€™t follow any protocols specifically besides attempting that ridiculous dolichol deprivation one, it was just me frantically doing whatever looked promising which was pretty much everything months back that someone improved from that didnā€™t seem to risky. I didnā€™t touch any actual hormone treatments and Iā€™d stay away from the peptides unless you really know what youā€™re doing. NeurotropinPMG messed me up real bad from a single dose but thankfully I recovered from it after feeling really faint, severely depressed, and out of it the next day.

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Thanks for sharing, sorry Iā€™m not familiar with itā€¦ can i ask how long were you on saw p and when did your symptoms start (ie as in the year?)

@LazarusRy A month, they started that month by the end of it but I didnā€™t attribute them to it at first, then I quit and in a nutshell over the next few months all hell broke loose. For a short timeline though it started with mood swings and depressive episodes, towards the end of the month I started getting strange digestive issues out of nowhere nothing could help, the mental and digestion issues over the next got even worse, then came the ssexual and general anhedonia followed by complete sexual dysfunction, then came the dizzness and fatigue waves, then came the near complete emotional blunting and numbness all over my body with burning neuropathy in my legs and genitals, after that it was all over. I was so weak at first I could barely get out of a chair and mostly stayed inside for the first couple months besides forcing myself to work which I barely made it through with the confusion, speech issues, and weakness. In general it felt all over but gradually as I started doing more to help myself I very slowly crawled out.

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Thanks for the explanation, sadly which is all to familiar, when was this and how old are you

Iā€™m 32 and it happened towards the end of last summer.

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You have a good chance to recover with time my friend

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Yeah I know I will and that currently thereā€™s probably not much I can do but wait. I have a feeling in my case specifically part of the issue is that due to my circumstanced when I did crash I destroyed the density of my dopamine and opioid receptors too (I was a heavy kratom and HHC user when this happened too) and it can take well over a year for ā€œsignificantā€ progress . Considering that this class of drugs when something goes horribly wrong seems to massacre multiple systems in different ways depending on the person that whatever you also had issues with when you crashed is likely to get even worse. Largely what is rearing itā€™s ugly head quite literally right now is my self image problems, my hair appearance and how I need to keep it shaved because of how bad it got is killing my self confidence. Honestly fell into this SP trap because I thought that all I needed was more thickness and time so thatā€™ll eventually grow down but I made a horrible mistake as my hair type makes that impossible I learned. Iā€™ll spare the rest of the irrelevant complainging about the social issues stemming from my hairy problem but you probably get the picture.

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I am Unable to do workout due to Muscle pain
Fatigue
Muscle pain in legs arms and shoulder after walking for 30 min or so
Any tips help?