I have PFS without ever using Fin. I am a young male. Please help

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Where are you from (country)? Norway

How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?) Googling soft penis.

What is your current age, height, weight? 28, 170cm and 80 kg.

What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)? Some vietnamese medicine to stop hair loss and cialis

What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)? Took about 20 of the vietnamese medicine daily for about 2-3 weeks. Took cialis 20mg pills about 2 times.

What condition was being treated with the drug? Hair loss, and ED

For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)? 2-3 weeks

How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start the drug? I was 28, started in december 2019.

How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit? I was 28. Quit in december or january 2020.

How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)? Cold turkey

How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects? Dont remember

What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?
Penile shirnkage, weak erections, loss of girth and size. Penis feels dead when flaccid, and very weak when erect. Trouble getting erections.

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Sexual
[ ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ x] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[ ] Loss of Morning Erections
[ x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[ ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ ] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[ ] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[ x] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[x ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
[ ] Hearing loss
[ ] Increased hair loss
[x ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug? Have been to a urologist, he said everything is fine. Took blood test, checked prostate etc.

Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience?

Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

My flaccid penis used to be firm and full. Now it feels like jelly and it is extremely small. I can bend it and squeeze it with no resistance. Erections are very soft, and the penis is lighter, like it is empty inside. I have lost size and girth when i have erections. Harder to get and maintain erections. I would say my erections are about 50%. Before this i was rock hard instantly. Basically my penis feels dead and lifeless.

I started having some erection problems last summer when on holiday in another country. I bought 20mg cialis without prescription abroad and used it 2-3 times. After this i had some erection issues but it got fine. In december last year i got a gift from a friend. It was some natural vietnamese medicine which would prevent hair loss. He told me to eat handfull of these pills daily. I did. After 3 weeks i started having these issues, and have had them since. Only once did i feel like my penis was coming back to life again and it was when i had sex. After that my penis felt “full and normal” for a few days. Stopped having sex and these issues came back. I have been to doctor, urologist etc and no one can help. Any advice? See pictures of the vietnamese medicine: https://imgur.com/a/QhaJZbR

You need to find out the ingredients in that product. If it is against hair loss it may contain saw palmetto or other 5ar-inhibitors, which act similarly to finasteride. If you got PFS from that, which has happened before, it would explain your issues.

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It probably contains saw palmetto.

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How to solve this issue, should i take anything in order to get back to normal?

For starters check ALL of the ingredients and post them here. Then, do hormone bloodtests to rule out the possibility of a hormone problem.

This is based on google translate, i could not translate all of the ingredients:

  • Reynoutria multiflora
    (known as uber fleeceflower and Chinese knotweed)
  • Green black beans crushed
  • Sesame?
  • Ventricular?
  • Honey Pollen
  • Yin Kidney Tonic?
  • Precious drugs (I guess some secret drug?)

Is obvious for you reaction that has some antiandrogenic substance. You could have it worst, be glad for that