How can Doctors even consider prescribing Propecia/Proscar? I ask myself that question to this date. I mean we have a support site up, with blood tests that actually SHOWS that the drug irreversibly(as far as we know) alter our endocrine system.
Mr. Doctor, if you are reading this, think TWICE before prescribing this medication. Also, THINK TWICE before speaking to your pharmeceutical representative when asking questions about this medication.
…not everyone does (anymore).
I am currently in the process of addressing dermatologists in my city I live in to explain the situation with this drug - they don’t know better - that is all.
Funny thing happened in the morning. I went to see my urologist and he called me back in his room a second time to show me some advertisment and price reduction bullshit about finasteride 1mg for hair loss addressed to his clinic. The advertisment was pretty funny - something like ‘make your patients happier’ and what have you.
He smiled at me teared it apart and threw it in the bin. That made my day… .
(You have to know that he was once considering to take this stuff himself, so now knowing my case - he will never prescribe this shit for something like hair loss, this is for sure!)
anonnn1,
Unfortunately, most drs hold more weight in the Manufacturers medical study than men like us that are complaining of the damages caused by this medication. It’s seems rather ridiculous to me. How could you hold any weight at all in medical study unless it is done by a thrid party.
My dr told me that he has 4 of his patients using Propecia right now and they have not complained of any symptoms. I didn’t engage him in an argument, probably because I’m so passive now. However, if you asked me that question 2 years into taking the drug, I also would have said it’s not a problem. I believe every guy taking Propecia will eventually suffer some side effects from the drug. It’s just a matter of how long it will take.
What exactly don’t you like about it? The fact that it doesnt list a million possible sides on the bottle? Any medicine can cause side affects, it is a risk just like taking aspirin is a risk.
His point is that doctors are naive about the drug and don’t belive there is wide spread problem or that the side effects are very extensive. If your an advocate for Propecia You are on the wrong forum buddy.
This idiot made 7 posts, most of them knocking down our claims. Mew, can you please ban caggy, get his IP address too…
i remember when a Doctor prescribed me propecia
he didnt know what was it is
and didnt know how spell propecia
ignorance, arrogance, apathy.
The same three things that caused me to take it in the first place.
I didn’t mean to knock anyone. But people do seem to act that millions of people have suffered sides but no-one knows, we do know that many take it without any sides. Just because some have sides doesn’t mean fin is evil, there are risks taking it, most people know this. It can affect some people terribly and its truely awful but surely we realise this is unlikely.
I agree most doctors are naive and maybe should be more aware of sides.
People should definately research it more and be aware that fin can cause very bad sides.
No where in the literature was it stated that fin can cause permanent effects even after stopping treatment. No doctors mentioned it. I’m sure most people would not take it even if the chance for permanent sides was 0.001%
When I took fin I read the packet insert and realized that I might get sides. If I did, the solution would be just to quit and have everything return to normal as was stated in the packet. Well it didn’t 
There are alot of individuals who are older who take finasteride and dont care abou their sex drive.
It’s totally corrupt for this company to prescribe this drug to 18-30 year olds saying it’s “safe” when it’s not.
Yes, Merck is evil. Ask the 10,000 families who lost loved ones from strokes who took Vioxx.
Thread seems kinda pointless, as we know this guy stands behind Merck’s studies. He’s the founder of a hair restoration institute, so it’s no wonder he supports Propecia use. Hair loss generates big business, and it’s a business he’s a part of.
He makes some good points though, not trying to belittle the obvious sides some have but its important to hear both sides.
Caggy, what exactly is your motivation for posting on this site? To tell us that Finasteride side effects do not exist? That Finasteride cannot cause lasting, persistent side effects?
I’ve been following your posts and almost every one is written in a veiled manner that presents either a question or statement, but is really just an underhanded attempt to discredit people’s claims on this site.
Really, I’d be interested to know who you are and why you are even here, considering you have yet to even discuss your usage of Finasteride. If your only reason for posting is to stir the pot and “argue” with what people are claiming on this site, you’re wasting your time.
for some people this is very serious issue , indeed life and death and you are talking about good points. My suggestion you should start taking this magic pill untill you see sides and then come back to this forum to discuss it’s good points.
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Well you haven’t followed them very well then have you? I clearly state in this thread alone that I’m not trying to belittle people who have sides.
So I am fully aware some have sides, of course they do, and agree that doctors should warn their patients that some may get sides. But all drugs can cause side effects.
My concerns are that people seem to think Fin is devil incarnate despite it helping millions of people, and the study shows even people who didnt even take it stated they had side effects. My worry is that people are not mentally prepared to take the drug, all drugs have the potential for sides.
If you want more warnings about possible side effects of fin I’m with you, definately. And I hope everyone with sides recovers as soon as possible.
“some of the posts baffle me.”
Allow me to enlighten you.
“anyone who takes fin realises they can get sides.”
Does everyone who takes Propecia realize they’re taking a chance of getting PERMANENT sides? … Answer, NO
Why is there no warning about the possibility of permanent negative effects?
Let me answer that for you, … Rational individuals wouldn’t take it if they were aware of how dangerous Propecia is. Which equates to less money for the pushers of Propecia. Now we couldn’t have that could we, best to be disingenuous.
“My concerns are that people seem to think Fin is devil incarnate despite it helping millions of people,”
Have you interviewed millions of people or are you omniscient. … How do you know it hasn’t harmed millions of people.
“My worry is that people are not mentally prepared to take the drug, all drugs have the potential for sides.”
Your worry?
“I’m really trying to work out exactly the forum wants to happen? Warn people of sides? Aren’t people aware of it anyway? To stop doctors prescribing it? why?”
We want the truth told, we want it known Propecia can cause PERMANENT negative effects, PERMANENT, PERMANENT, PERMANENT. You conspicuously fail to include that word, interesting.
“some of the posts baffle me.”
Yours falls into that category.
BTW … Answered your original post, before you altered it and reposted.
Cheers. Like I said I wasn’t sure of what exactly people want to happen, therefore when someone posts ‘How come doctors prescribe this drug’ I thought was odd because surely the answer is it can stop hairloss.
I totally agree doctors should make sure when they prescribe the drug that the patient should know all possible sides and in some cases it could be permanent.
There’s plenty of people who take the drug despite knowing about permanent sides, just check out any hairloss forum.
So you think everyone who takes Fin will be harmed? All those who have taken it for years and years will suddenly get sides. C’mon now, sure the percentage that get sides maybe higher than whats stated put to think everyone is damaged by it is scaremongering, which was kind of my point.
I’m just trying to look at it with a balanced view.
Again I agree doctors should definately state all possible sides and that some should be permanent.
Caggy, it is clear you are simply trying to provoke negative emotional reactions from your discourse.
Agreeing that docs should state Permanent side effects as a possible outcome from use, and then blatantly stating that “we think everyone who takes Fin will be harmed” in order to continue the disbelief side of things, is quite pathetic.
Tell me where someone said “All those who have taken it for years and years will suddenly get sides.”?
We are NOT saying EVERYONE gets damaged by it. SOME men may experience negative side effects from use. Out of THOSE MEN, some may experience permanent side effects.
The Manufacturer makes no mentions about the possibility of permanent side effects, thus not disclosing the full risks of the medication, however rare they might be.
If this is not clear enough by now, perhaps you have an inability to comprehend what you read.