HORMONAL IMBALANCE

General Discussion
#1

Hey guys I know most people on here are showing there hormones being in balance… I just got my labs back from new doc and this is whats going on… Was wanting to know if anyone has an opinion of this…Anyone can decipher please do::::::

E2 = 30…slightly elevated
Progesterone = 54.44 extremely low… range is 94
Ratio of Progesterone /E2 = 18.89… also really low
Total Test = 2076… this is on Topical cream …extremely high
Dhea = 519.25 range is 137- 336 extremely high
Cortisol Morning = 8.50 range is 18-35…extremely low
Cortisol Night = 0.49 range is 2-6
T4 = 1.1 range is 0.8-1.8 below average
T3 = 3.4 above average
Vitamin B12 was below average
Ferretin was below average
Free Testosterone = 484.50 extremely high
Vitamin D= 24 range is 30-100

Now due to these labs this new doc wants to take me off of topical and put me on this new protocol:

Testosterone Cypionate 0.4 ml (80 mg) IM once a week
Compounded Topical Progesterone mixed with Chyrsin at Bedtime every night…this will also be an AI…Progesterone is 25mg and Chrysin is 40 mg combined together in one topical…
Hcg 200 IU SQ/IM once a day
Iodarol 50 mg a day for T4 and T3 Stimulation
Vega One Nutrional Shake (2 a day)
Ferrochel Iron Chelate 30 mg daily
Vitamin D Supreme 5000 iu daily
Ultra B12 - Folate once a day
Omega 3+D squeeze…(2 a day)

She says according to the labs I have explains my symptoms and the topical test has been too much… She wants to regulate it… I explained to her how I can have sex sometimes with no meds and sometimes I lose erection… And I still have morning wood and nocturnals… She seems to think that this is gonna fix my issues… Anyone can decipher this or tell me what they think is going on… I would sure appreciate it… I stopped topical test yesterday and start this new protocol next Wednesday September 10th…She says after I get this new protocol dialed in that I will never need ed medication again… I was really impressed about how she knew automatically to go with progesterone and she also mentioned the ultra b12 is a very important product because it deals directly with methylation and conversions of things… I didn’t write all of this to not get a response… I wrote all of this because my hormones are showing imbalance but my symptoms are mild… I am just looking for help… Does anyone else hormones look this messed up like mine… Waiting on responses and opinions…

#2

Stop to start new topic for your every single update.

#3

Praying To Heal, I am at this point convinced this problem is a 5 AR shutdown/blockage, I believe hormones can help make you feel better and stimulate 5AR. You are on a lot of stuff, I mean, hell, try anything, that’s my answer, it can’t get any worse, and you already know how to at least get where you are. Your testosterone is high, but if you didn’t stop using it for 5 days before your test it would affect it. My advice is go with it and try it, my doctor has a bunch of shit he wants to try too, I actually am finding a lower dose of testosterone to work better because it is all my body can currently process, because that is all the 5 AR enzymes I am making or have, or are not being blocked. I am convinced my theory is correct based on all the evidence and all my experiences.

#4

Can u make sense of any of these hormones???

#5

Well the fact that I respond well to TRT (topical cream a day by itself) means that if I peak testosterone so to speak as in this new protocol that I am starting on Wednesday it seems that it will only get better…Well this doc says that my test is way too high and that is why she want to put me on injections and monitor all these hormone levels… she says that too much is not good and if too much is on the receptors then it can of course cause other problems… As it sits right now I can have sex about every 3 days without taking meds… If I try anything before the 3 day period I may or may not lose the erection… I still have morning and nocturnal erections even with testosterone being this high… but as u can see these other hormones are not in balance… So I stopped the topical yesterday and I do my first injection and this new protocol next Wednesday sept the 10th… im going through a washout right now letting all hormones go back to baseline… It takes seven days… Then I will start this new protocol… The fact that I did and was responding to topical is really good…So I am quite sure that this new protocol is gonna make everything better… Not looking to be pre fin just something I can live with… Hell its a lifelong commitment at this point anyway…

#6

This is how my hormones are now almost a year off propecia on TRT… Does anyones elses look similar to this???

#7

Why haven’t you looked into the priapus shot? It fixes all the sexual functions of the penis supposedly and increases penis size and sensitivity

#8

BTW Praying To Heal, I have a full bottle of Methylcobalamin, it is the best form of B12 and the only one that really works. You should have a 30ML bottle of it at home that you can inject yourself from anytime you want, I am always shooting my ass up with that stuff. Also, injectable test is much better than creams and gels. The key isn’t a high dose but a low dose, you will be surprised that if you take a low dose of test you will feel much better. Based on my research and theories, I am feeling normal now taking a low dose of test because that is all my body can process currently.

#9

Yes that is exactly what my new doc says… That’s why she is putting me on this protocol… Lowering the test … I already know im fisten to be 100 times better… and the ultra b12 with folate she had me order works exactly on methylco balamin… And the progesterone ai… Im fisten to be prefin… She is 300 dollars a month… But as u can see she knows her shit

#10

You should investigate the adrenal glands… Check androstenedione and 17OH progesterone too.

#11

this are blood or saliva tests?

#12

Both I drew blood morning and I did 4 saliva tests thruout the day… What does it look like to u??

#13

What would be the purpose of this??

#14

Does this look like typical PFS to u?? Or just a hormonal imbalance??

#15

Progesterone, DHEA and cortisol are produced by the adrenal glands, and so are androstenedione and 17OH Progesterone.

#16

I understand that … So what does this look like to u?? Honestly according to hormones

#17

Praying To Heal, I know exactly why you feel better, I already have discovered that low doses of testosterone work, you are only on 0.4CC of Testosterone Cypionate. If you were to up that to 1cc you would crash, I told you this from day one. I found this out a month or so ago, I figured out PFS is damage to the body’s ability to produce 5AR enzymes which reduce testosterone to DHT.
We only produce so much 5AR enzymes, the key is to find a dose low enough that your body produces enough 5AR enzymes to reduce to DHT. If I lowered my test dose to yours I would be good too, it is just such a low dose and I am used to at least 0.7cc, I am currently trying to get by with 0.5cc of enanthate and maybe a smaller dose when the first wears off.
The HCG once a day is interesting, so is the lodarol and progesterone, I have read things about Progesterone on the forum in passing, seems to be something that might help. The key is you found a way to manage your condition with hormones as I have stated many times can be done. Thanks for sharing your protocol, but your PFS is still there, if you were to up your testosterone you would crash.
If you can have a stabilized situation though, that is great, I have managed to do that myself, but I am not the monster I was before PFS hit, so I am working on getting my body to become a beast again, I am going to try integrating your protocol as one of my therapies I have lined up to try now.

#18

Ok, I reviewed your list again and the only things that are really doing anything significant are the HCG and the low dose of test cypionate, and the Progesterone is interesting. Everything else is natural bullshit that probably isn’t doing much. I suspect if you stopped everything except the test and the HCG you would probably feel about the same (not sure about the progesterone though). The Progesterone may be making a difference, but the key is you have a good doctor that is willing to try things and believe you, that is great. You were doing ridiculously high doses of test before, that was why you were the way you were, with this condition we can only process low doses of testosterone. Now, a cure or a treatment would be if someone could find out how we could process higher doses of testosterone. You are not crashing because you are taking a super low dose of test, I told you that a while back.

#19

Ok i am 8 days into this protocol and wait for it… I had 5 spontaneous erections today talking to my gf on the phone… I would tell her how much i love her and i would get an erection… So u are right about the low dose of test… Its working… had sex tonight no isssues… I haven’t had spontaneous since march… now they are back in full force…

#20 
Yea, if you inject a high dose of test all that happens is you run out of 5AR enzymes and your body struggles along to produce more and when it does you intermittently feel better then worse. On, off, on, off, so you have found a low dose that works. I also found HCG seems to help too, so your taking it once a day at low doses is interesting to me. 
 Keep us up to date, I suspect you will continue to do ok, but if you start to crash, it is because you have exhausted your 5AR enzyme supply, so then take a week off everything and restart again and you will feel ok. That is how this condition works, I know EXACTLY what is going on, it is just too bad people won't listen to me. Already several people have reported that they have listened to me and are doing better, I have no cure, no treatment, but I do have a way to make everyone feel almost normal again or at least 50% better which is better than nothing.

My theory is that in time it will trigger the body to recover, if not and the body recovers on its own, at least we will get by living normally and not so bad off as others. I find it interesting that you can only tolerate around the same dose as me, I wonder if that is the case with everyone. Someone else reported they are doing well on a low dose after reading my posts, but I forget who it was.