Hope 88s newest bloodtest with comparison to status while on fin

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#1

Hey , here is my newest bloodtest unfortunatelly there is no clear hormones tested except TSH

but my hormones where and are Ok but nevertheless my newest with comparison to one where I haven’t had sexual sideeffects

09/24/2010
Test made at around 12 o’clock latest test

leukozyten 8,80 Tsnd/ul. 3,8-10,8

erythrozyten 5,15 Mill./UL 4.70-6.10

Haemoglobin 16,0 g/dl 14.0-18.0

Haematokrit 46.3 % 42.0-52.0

TSH Basal 1,53 uU/ml 0.30- 4.50

MCV 89,8 fl 80-94

MHC 31,0 pg 28-32

MCHC 34,5 g/dl 32-36

Thrombozyten 186 tsnd/ul 130-450

RDW 12,6 % <15

Alk. phosphatase 45 U/l 40-130

Calcium 2,37 mmol/l 2,15-2.55

cholesterin 178 mg/dl <200

FE (Eisen) 96 ug/dl 59-158

GGT Gamma- Gt 42 U/l <50

Bloodsugar in serum 79 mg/dl 74-106

GPT/ALAT 50 U/l <50

Urinacid 7,0 mg/dl 3.4-7.0

Kalium 4.1 mmol/l 3.50-5.10

creatinin 0.89 mg/dl 0.84-1.25

Triglyceride 58 mg/dl 0.84-1.25

MDRDM Glomer.Filitrationsrate:man 114 kA 80-140

07/24/2008
Test made at around 11 o’clock on fin for 8 months (no noticeable sideeffects at that time)

leukozyten 7,00 Tsnd/ul. 3,8-10,8

erythrozyten 4,79 Mill./UL 4.70-6.10

Haemoglobin 14,3 g/dl 14.0-18.0

Haematokrit 41.6 % 42.0-52.0

TSH Basal 2,76 uU/ml 0.30- 4.50

MCV 86,9 fl 80-94

MHC 29,9 pg 28-32

MCHC 34,4 g/dl 32-36

Thrombozyten 253 tsnd/ul 130-450

RDW 13,0 % <15

Alk. phosphatase 69 U/l 40-130

Calcium 2,43 mmol/l 2,15-2.55

cholesterin 173 mg/dl <200

FE (Eisen) 58 ug/dl 59-158

GGT Gamma- Gt 22 U/l <50

Bloodsugar in serum 90 mg/dl 74-106

GPT/ALAT 23 U/l <50

Urinacid 5,4 mg/dl 3.4-7.0

Kalium 4.4 mmol/l 3.50-5.10

creatinin 0.81 mg/dl 0.84-1.25

Triglyceride 78 mg/dl 0.84-1.25

#2

by the way I have to make a hard decision … I made an 24h bloodpressure test and my doctor diagnosed me hypertonia… She said that I have to take ACE- inhibitors… So I think you know the sideeffects of it …Guess what … IMPOTENCE and Male breasts … so it’s a pretty tough decision but my hormons are OK and when I did sports I felt better therefore maybe my problem lies there that fin changed my heartbeat and therefor my adrenaline and maybe this ACE-inhibitors could help me to get better … I am so helpless… I know this post is off- topic but is here someone who got better with that stuff …

#3

Did your doctor have any idea as to why you were having hypertonia? Not hypertension?(very little info on hypertonia out there). Since measuring bloodpreassure perhaps it was hypertension? Possibly they are related conditions tho…

#4

well, I’m sorry I meant hypertonia so, I mean high bloodpressure, I still have problems but I think this is why I do not do any sports at the moment because I still have problems with my sciatica I realised that I also have very high uric acid maybe thats also a part … and of course the liver seems to have high values(GPT/ALAT) in 2008 (23) and in 2010 (50) I think I shouldn’t drink too much hard drinks…
but drinking in general is good and maybe not to eat too much flesh because flesh contains purine… purine is important for cell death that’s what I have read… maybe my next step is to go to an orthopaedic specialist and ask him to get some insoles and maybe make a x-ray of my pelvis to help with my physical condition

#5

oh to your question I thought hypertonia and hypertension are the same. well yes I think it’s hypertension. well no she said that it could be heritable related which is in my case true. By the way look at the FE values they are much better than before … I should also test a few vitamins next time and copper + zinc

#6

Im sure it can be herediteray but did you have it before this propecia mess?

one of possibly very many reasons for hypertension could be to much mineralocorticoids. That would be an adrenal issue and as im sure you know adrenals have been a major suspect of why we are on this mess. Id have your doctor atleast check up on that.

#7

well, I know but i made an extensive bloodtest in april this year there was nothing wrong with my adrenals so ACTH (Adrenocorticotropin) test was ok, i mean in germany we do have the possibility to check without extra paying propably like in Canada the well-fare system. So there was nothing wrong with my adrenals but what exactly is mineralocorticoids so in wikipedia it says that my calium values have to rise so that there is an inbalance of natrium and calium , which is not the case in comparison to the values of 2008. I show you my link to my widespread bloodtest: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3430
But thanks for your reply

#8

Your cortisol is over the range high. Your oh-progesterone is over the range high. Its not far fetched to belive that the step inbetween progesterone and cortisol is high aswell and perhaps aldosterone too.

If i were you id atleast test these 3 below before id let my doc put me on any treatment for symptom relief without finding a cause, esp since adrenal function is something that is a big suspect for all of us and its also documented in litterature that propecia affect this pathway.

Deoxycorticosterone en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
11-deoxycortisol en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11-Deoxycortisol
Aldosterone en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldosterone

Pathway: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steroidogenesis.svg

#9

hi,Troubledfinuser2 again , you’re right I hope you relate to my second widespread test (on the second page of the link I posted )… but you’re right it seems like there is a possibility to this I don’t know whether my endo is able to test for this 3 hormones but at least they can test cortisol again and aldosterone unfortunatelly I started my treatment for about 2 and a half weeks I still have a high pulse although my bloodpressure is Ok. So I just take ACE-inhibitors not beta-blockers(which can suppress pulse beat ), but you’re right I should go to my urologist or endo to check for this it seems plausible . but I’m a bit afraid of testing because my ACE-inhibitors could also influence the aldosterone values.
I do not think that it is necessary to check for thyroid issues do you ? because many people stated that I have to (re)test (rt3) , t3 and t4 …but since my latest TSH-test is about in the middle I don’t think that I have and Autoimmune related disease.So maybe copper and zinc to see it . Thanks again for your time you invested to help me !

#10

Heres a crazy idea for you, try a baby formula rich in triglyceride. It can be absorbed by the body without the aid of bile.

#11

To understand your statement right, do you mean I should eat baby food ? maybe I confound something or could you please explain exactly what do you mean with baby formula ?

Thanks

#12

Yeah sorry, to me it looks like you may have a problem with absorbing certain types of fats as your numbers are low getting lower kind of thing.
I know that they make some baby formulas that have fats that are absorbed more easily. I am not a doctor though.

#13

Well , no thank you for your reply I’m just not a native english speaker so I asked whether I understood your statement right
sorry for this confusion . Maybe I should try it … But again my question is do you mean infant food in general which is available in stores or do you mean some specific stuff ? So in germany we have companies like “hipp” and “alete” who produces baby food. I don’t know if you heard of these companies… so i see that you are located in New Zealand so you’ve propably not heard of these companies.

#14

First of all sorry to make a new topic again for my bloodtest but I thought this time this test is even more interesting than the last one .
I’ll add the other results when I have 'em all in this section so don’t worry there won’t be a number 4. : )

Test was made on 11/11/2010 at about 11 o’clock

Copper:1100 ug/l 700-1400 ( not out of range but still a bit high)

Lymphozyten:23.7 % 25-40 (a bit low, maybe due to high cortisol levels)

Cortisol:21.5 ug/dl 4,3-22,4 (also high)

zinc: 21.1 umol/l 9.2-18,4 (due to supplements, I think)

Vitamin D 25 (OH): 6.0 ug/l 20-58 (way too low)

Eosinophile : 5.57 % <6

I tested also for Adiol G, aldosteron and the stuff troubledfinuser2 recommend me but the test is from the 11/11/2010 so i think it takes more time
hopefully the lab knows what it is . I also made a few more test but I’m too lazy right know(and they are not out of range) they will follow when
I get all my tests. I’ll start with Vitamin d supplements

#15

This is fine, been there done that, mine was much higher.

This is interesting, what did the doctor say about this?

What time of the day was this? 11am? This is ok.

This is no problem

This is a terrible reading.

#16

He said nothing but I read that it could be connected to high cortisol levels . so that’s what I guess I have also a dust mite allergy and
I had a tonsillectomy years ago maybe because of it …but that’s another thing.
I still have to wait for my other tests I inquered for Inhibin B , Adiol G , mineralcorticoide, aldosterone …But I don’t know whether they will test all of it in the lab. My new doctor is pretty Ok but the interesting thing is that he does take propecia and said that he had never problems with it and that even his 5 brothers take it … I told him the whole story and said that I don’t want to worry him but just because he take this shit for 5 years doesn’t mean that he could also get side effects of this shit . I also took it for 11 months and had no sideeffects until month 11… well at least he is not ignorant, like many doctors …

#17

What time of the day was this? 11am? This is ok.

Yes , 11 am .

#18

Aldosteron in serum : 51 ng/l 20-150

11 desoxycortisol in serum : 2.2 ng/ml <7.2

cholesterin: 171 mg/dl < 200

Gamma GT: 31 U/l <55

GPT: 39 < 41

HDL Cholesterin :58 mg/dl > 38

LDL Cholesterin: 102 mg/dl <160

Triglyceride: 54 mg/dl <200

still waiting for “Steroid 5 alpha reductase” I don’t know whether the lab tested for my other inquired tests

Taking at least 6000 I/U Vitamin D daily and realised that my high bloodpressure has now
turned to normal. So I’m off ACE-inhibitors about 2 1/2 weeks.
So I think my high bloodpressure was related to a Vitamin D deficiency (hopefully I’m right about this conclusion but when I did bloodpressure tests it was much lower so that’s my conclusion)

#19

new update made the “5 alpha steroid 2” test and got no results so the lab ignored the inquiered tests again.
So my doctor just said That I have the 5alpha steroid hormone in my genes …lol they are so dumb.
I knew that I have this fucking gene I wanted to have the value “Androstandiol Glucuronid” …
why are the labs so dumb…well empty rhetoric. the next big think I’ll do is a NMRI of my groin area/pelvis and spine and a prostate check up.
But I’m so tired of testing with no real clues.

#20

Again a new update , made my NMRI of my lumbar spine and the doctor says that I have an erosion on my spinal disc .
WTF I’m 22 years old and have a symptom which maybe 40-50 years old people have got.
Next week I’ll get an NMRI of my pelvis . I’m sure that it is Finasterid related