b6, vitex or dostinex/cabergoline
b6 p5p form is not neurotoxic like regular b6 and can be taken in high doses, i would start with 50 mg twice a day and increase to 100 mg perhaps even three times a day, judge according by feeling
No, unfortunatelly not , just about the TSH-levels so I will have a test in 2 days , she also didn’t say something about my prolactin levels, so I do this by my own by advice from you guys
I would definitely inquire as to those levels - please let me know what she says.
I will do that golf17331 ! she is a very busy doctor so I’ll get a kind of phone-appointment to talk about my bloodtest . but tomorrow I’ll first have to do my TSH-level checked so to tell you what she said can take some time so i guess about tomorrow in a week I can tell you what she said about my LH and FSH-levels, prolactin and of course the TSH-Levels !
Ok I had a little talk before taking the bloodtest , she said my GH is ok she made the IGF-1 Test and said that the LH and TSH and prolactin is so high due to stress reasons the results of the TSH-test will be released on the 11th of april… so I have to be patient … I think for me the reason is the high blood pressure , I hope I don’t have any heart disease…even when I relax my bloodpressure is extremely high I don’t know the exact values but while bloodtesting the nurse said that my results are pretty high maybe I should do a 24 hour bloodpressure test … so the high bloodpressure can be caused by the high TSH levels …so like what I’ve mentioned I have to be patient…
Hi everyone here, I have a little update to my situation, because of the vitamin b6 treatment I feel quite a lot more aggressive but also kind of shity
I take 3 pills each 100g daily, but there is actually no change in scrotum or duration of the erection. With shity I mean I seem to think quite more often about sex but my E.D. are not libido/sex-drive related also without Vitamin B6 I had a 100% libido but with B6 it seems that my high testosterone is coming out of me. I hate it to wait for my results so long, not to know what will happen etc. , I start to think about all those companies who sell their shit which is not proven, just because of money and not interested what all can happen e.g. sideeffects. This companies are fucking Nazis, and Merckand /or MSD are the biggest Nazis just with the difference that they want to eliminate the Baldpeople, by making them impotent. Sorry when some people feel offended by this comparison but I’m so angry about it !
If you have only ED, did you check for physical causes, such as an arterial blockage? Some folks ended up with that problem
well, yes I made an ultrasonic examination on my penis but it was full with blood , but maybe I should investigate again to that issue.
So I made the telephone appointment and my endo said to me via phone that everything was in range , also my prolactin levels , they were really so high due to stress reasons , at the moment I have no time to go to the doctor to give me the script of my results , but when I have I’ll post it as soon as possible , she also said that my Adiol g3 is in the range … So my problem has to do with the liver in my opinion , because when I eat like a vegetarian or rather vegan I feel much better , or when I do much sports …
really never thought about it but I think thats the main reason… I do smoke it is a poison for liver function , I do eat meat that is also a point because the liver has to work more , and of course drinking alcohol is poison for the liver… there must be a problem with a kind of enzyme which was damaged by finasterid … I will try vitamin D lets see what will happen …
FSH 6,8 : 0 -6,0
LH 5,2: 1,70 - 8,60
TSH Basal 2,54: 0,27-2,5
17-ohp 2,6 :0,9- 3,1
Prolaktin:8,6 :4,04-15,20
FT3: 4,00 :2.00 -4,40
FT4 13.00 : 9,30 - 17,00
ACTH 16,4 : 4,7 -48.8
cortisol basal 177.8 : 23-194
Jod im Urin 92,0 :11,0-403,0
Krea/morning urin 2,00: 0,00-0,00
03/18/10 at about 8.50 o’clock
So here are my results of my latest thyroid test , my androstendion (adiol g3) result will be released later unfortunatelly my endo forgot to send it to the file , but on phone she said something about 1 comma something and the range is 0,5 - 3,something
Hope 88
It would be helpful if you could post your actual Adiol-G reading along with the units it was measured in (or the name of the lab that did the test). I know your endo said it was “in range”, but in the case of Adiol-G the “range” is skewd by the “sick people” effect - it is unlikely that your endo appreciates this as most don’t even understand what AdiolG is…
All blood test ranges reflect sick as well as well people. Therefore, by including people who are ill ranges get skewed. A perfect example is ACTH serum values - normal range two decades ago used to be 40 to 60 (Quest Diagnositics common units) but after years of running the test on sick (e.g. adrenal issues) patients the “normal range” is now magically 8-60.
The “sick plus well” range problem with Adiol-G is particularly acute. It is only run on males when a doctor suspects hermaphrodism. Therefore the range is skewed downward quite a bit from the values found by testing normal men. To see ranges of Adiol-G levels taken from normal men please see the Adiol-G sticky thread - perhaps print and bring your doctor the abstracts and their enclosed refernce ranges - we can help you to underline the correct range.
Thanks for your efforts in helping us all understand the epidemiology of post-finasteride syndrome.
kazman
kazman , I’ll do it , I don’t know why these people are so lazy or why they can’t understand my questions i have mailed them ( so i mean the receptionist of the endo I go to) they always send me the Thyroid results but not the androstendion results … I can’t really understand my case it seems that my case is so unique … I have libido but I’m not able to have full scrotal and normal erections … When I ’ m horny my testicles seem to work but it’s hard to maintain or go over the top so it can be full with blood therefor I’m really agressive because I have libido but it doesn’t work …
but i’ve read that there are also a few people who can have rock hard erections but have zero libido and of course the vast majority who have both . In my case I don’t know what to do else … I don’t need proviron , maybe i should take viagra to feel the sensation again … also when I live in a healthy way I enjoy going out when it is warm outside…I become depressed because of my situation it’s not the post-drug effects itself but because of the situation the drug brought me . PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM THIS DRUG or you’ll end up with no lust , erections and become suicidal, But this community helps me a lot and I want to thank every single member that we can discuss about our experiences … I’m sorry When I talk like a propagandist but to feel the horniness but not able to perform makes you feel depressed
This likely points to a mechanical issue. You should get a Nocturnal Penile Tumescence test done to evaluate nocturnal/morning erections, and consider a doppler ultrasound to evaluate penile bloodflow hemodynamics.
It could be that Finasteride, through its effets on genital tissue, caused some physical changes to the penile ultrastructure – ie collagen deposits, fibrosis. However, androgens should correct the issue over time and the fact you are horny points to the concept that androgens are working correctly in your body post-Fin.
I would consult a Urologist to obtain the aforementioned tests to evaluate further. Horny Goat Weed may assist in meantime, or low-dose Viagra if you want to try another pharmaceutical (however, it also has side effects).
Ok that could be a reason … but why did I feel improvements with carots in combination with zinc like a few members did … so if there would be an arterial blockage or something like that , this shouldn’t have happened to me or do you think that this was a short time natural cure because of homeopathic reasons … by the way I did a kind of ultrasound but it was just acoustically so there was a acoustic signal which made noises like a heartbeat when my urologist made the physical examination on my spongy body of my penis so there was neither a doppler nor did he check my testicle
Hope - if you ask for “Adiol-G” they will have no idea what you’re talking about. Use the proper name that appears on the test form, 3 alpha (or 3a) androstanediol glucuronide. If possible have them fax you all the test results, as we would need at least the units, and perferably the range, to be useful.
Appreciate your efforts.
By the way, zinc is a very potent 5 alpha reductase type 2 inhibitor just like finasteride. On occasional dosing it does help to raise testoaterone levels, which is why I think some see a short term benefit. Continued dosing usually makes one feel worse.
The level of B6 you are taking is above any recommended maximum of around 200 mg. At these high levels B6 is also, you guessed it, a 5 alpha redctuase type 2 inhibitor. Would recommend 25 mg/day only.
Hey Today , i had an appointment with my urologist he said , that I first have to take viagra and or other stuff like levitra or cialis before he can make that other stuff , he said that I should do it in the next time. well he is also like me not to optimistic he said whether I want to have an appointment with a sexualtherapist and well yeah I kind of feel depressed , because pre fin I was super sexual everytime I wanted to perform or to masturbate I could, never had any proplems now I’m fucked up totally fucked up With libido like prefin but postfin erections … When I think about it I’m nearly in tears because my quality of life is so low … Well I know all of us are in nearly the same situation and I don’t want to play down your sideeffects but like I said before, my Libido is extremely high that means that it’s even more harmful than for those with no libido my penis is limp not full with blood and therefor the front of it hangs down
Androstendion 1,4 ng/ml 0.6-3.1 so there it is my androstendion value I forgot that I have tested it in my first bloodtest,
and I finally got some levitra and wanked with it … like many users said it is a more mechanical feeling
I don’t now why but with it I haven’t had such libido as I used to when I try it but can’t get it “high”
I took one pill but there is still a different feeling like tissue change so that means soft … this sucks so hard …
well at least I could get it up but scrotum wasn’t as full as it used to be pre fin … so thats the evidence that I have a change in penile seize … so I guess thats bad news vitamin D doesn’t work for me too good it’s like Vitamin B6 and zinc for me it makes me kind of vital but also kind of full with libido and aggressive .