history of mental illness?

General Discussion
#1

alright - please don’t attack me for this one… but i’m curious how many of us have a history of mental illness? perhaps even undiagnosed stuff that we might not even admit to? for example, i have never been diagnosed with any sort of mental illness but I’m aware i certainly have a personality disorder prior to, during, and after taking finasteride. i believe mine may be narcissistic personality disorder but i can’t be sure. the only thing i know for sure is that i always had compulsive habits which are now becoming known as “maladaptive daydreaming.” there is a clinical disorder which has been discussed and dismissed on this forum called “somatization disorder.” i am beginning to think its possible that this actually is a mental disorder that is powerful enough to produce physical bodily alterations simply because if i’m being completely honest - i wasn’t exactly 100% sane before. i’m not saying necessarily that finasteride didn’t cause us to go off the deep end… i just believe strongly in the genetic predisposition aspect in that we are all a little crazy. or something. sorry…

i’m personally just going further and further off the deep end.

#2

None. Why do people feel the need to look for other scapegoats, other than the drug itself and what it does?

Then you are choosing to dismiss the facts that Finasteride is a documented anti-androgen and neurosteroid inhibitor which can produce the various neurological, physical and sexual symptoms many victims are complaining about, which have become persistent despite discontinuation: viewforum.php?f=8

This is a ridiculous statement, BTW – no matter how much you might “will” yourself to believe something, it doesn’t make it true. ie, guys wishing for gynecomastia don’t grow tits – hormonal shifts towards estrogen dominance via 5AR2 inhibition has been documented to cause gyno, hence warnings on drug label.

You yourself admitting you may be “nuts” does not mean the rest of us are, if that is in fact what you are suggesting. This problem has now been documented in 2 published papers (Traish, Irwig), there are lawsuits and global media coverage of the problem and it continues to generate interest.

If there is a genetic predisposition, it has nothing to do with being “crazy” whatsoever… in fact that sounds like some nonsense I’d expect to hear from the defendants in court. Rather, genetics do play a role in how one response to the drug (Androgen Receptor CAG repeats) in terms of hair growth (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1407

Really, I’m surprised at you for posting this. These types of posts serve no purpose other than to try and make us all look like nutcases when in fact, the vast majority here were normal, healthy men with no pre-existing health conditions who were decimating by inhibiting 5AR2, DHT, neurosteroids etc and the resulting negative effects of such inhibition across multiple organs, tissues, and hormonal pathways.

#3

wtf is maladaptive daydreaming?

I never had any mental illness but I was maybe prone to melancholy and shyness, or ‘social anxiety’ as pharma medicate it these days, when an adolescent.

However there is mental illness in my family and there is no way I would have ever touched that shit if I had read it was capable of lowering mood or causing depression. There is no doubt I experienced mild to moderate depression at times on finasteride and my mood felt a whole lot better in retrospect the periods I was off. Anxiety was actually pretty bad especially in the last year, but I attributed it to other things as there were definitely triggers for that anxiety but if I wasn’t on fin I would have brushed them off.

But yeah, I basically think this theory is a load of BS. Sorry.

#4

i’m sure you guys are right. i guess i’ve been spending too much time going into my own thoughts about this malady. And yes - I admit that I was a little bit nuts before… but definitely had functional genitals and wasn’t cognitively impaired. I guess (just like many here) i’m still just in disbelief about all of this… even nine months off.

:frowning:

#5

No, no history of ANY mental issues before propecia. Although my job tried to paint the picture this way I was a very happy, energetic person before I met propecia. Also how can you link past mental issues with any of the physical side effects? I mean I’ve never heard of someone being able to “think” their penis and balls smaller.

#6

I’m with pecker on this one, yes metal issues could contribute but physical attributes like penile changes don’t happen because your depressed or anxious only errectile dysfunction even then you still get spontaneous and nocturnals.