What kind of stack? What is it?
I’m using proviron, arimidex, and dexamethasone. I have a very awesome endo that fully understands our dilemma and is working with me. He even admitted that we most likely know more than he does in regards to this unique issue, so I bring him studies, he reviews them, and we speak about possible solutions. We monitored blood for the last 8 months, did our research, and are now implementing this stack. So far so good, but I’m not sure it will last. If it does last, and especially when I being stopping it, and the results last and I’m recovered I will probably bring all of it to the board.
Exactly that is what I am having now. I can not walk bare foot. Even sometimes my socks feel on my foot skin like iron bar mesh. shoes itselft feel very hard like mad up of wood. I told to Doctor and he said your T-level is not that bad , you are normal. Even he said don’t use any Andro gel.
Few days back I was thinking just like you where would this all stop. Thanks God for the last 1-2 weeks I am feeling a little better. I am taking vit D3 2x/day and
I am not feeling bone pain that much. But it is still too early to draw any conclusion. I hope relief will not fad away with time.
Awor, did you use vit D3?
The only thing that come to my mind is something wrong with the liver. some liver problems create exactly same symptoms. But I have done all tests, every thing came normal, including CAT scan, ultrasound etc.
Another thing worries me is my pee color. My pee used to be thick and dar yellow now plain just like water. Before eating vits would stay all day now they go straight throgh my pee and this is the only time I see my pee yello.
Oh our God pleae have mercy on us.
Are you experiencing any sides? Where are you located? Seems like a more progressive endo…
Ihatepropecia - I assume you struggled with mental sides as well? Is that going away in addition to your sexual symptoms?
I’m not suffering any sides with this stack so far. The endo is great. We spent 8 months analyzing my blood and tracking trends within my system before trying anything. He made me promise not to take any more over the counter “self-remedy” supplements during this time to establish a base line.
I had all the classic sides to the n degree. They were excruciating, from complete brain fog, dyslexia, slurring and stuttering, weight gain, sensitive to the sun, depressed, no libido, and all the other sexual sides. I had all of them and probably to a more significant degree because I inhibit both 5ar1&2. I’m now starting to be able to write and type again, even though my sentences appear correct to me, they normally are not, and I have to read through them many times and make corrections. But I feel things are getting better, but I hesitate to mention it because we know firsthand how many times we “think” we are better just to find the opposite is true, or end up even worse off. I can start a thread like JN, but I don’t want to unless I’m certain things are working. So far after 5 weeks, things are looking good, but we’ll see where we are after 10 weeks, 10 months, a year. If people feel they will benifit from me starting a progress thread like JN then for the community I will, but I know myself that I hate reading a recovery threat just to find out 10 pages later that nothing worked and they are back to square one.
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I’m glad to hear of your improvements. Not to jump on your doctor so quickly, but where is he/are you located? Perhaps he would be open to treating other guys here. Any rate, I wish you continued success.
No problem. He is located in Vegas. I have only improved, not recovered. But if I do, I’ll be sure to give you guys the info.
Quick question, are you on TRT? Would you mind sharing your dosage for proviron, armidex, and dexathamesone? I’ve done some extensive research on those medications, it makes sense you are taking them I think atleast in my opinon…
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No trt. The endo admits this is very new and we are to approach it systematically. He understand that we can be facing androgen insensitivity and that dexamethasone will suppress the adrenals by 30-40% thus allowing the body to become slowly acquainted with androgens again, but he also admits that the body is not going to do anything when it is being shutdown by excess e2 ( I was 84 on a scale of 15-47), thus the arimidex. Since we reviewed studies during the blood monitoring, he was fascinated with the study showing that DHT will stimulate 5AR. He spent some time going over it with his colleagues and we are starting with the following:
- Arimidex 0.5 twice a week. Proviron 75mg once a week. Do this for 8 weeks. So far I’m feeling much better and feel the best right after taking the Proviron. I have been doing this for 5 weeks.
After testing blood again here in about 2 weeks we will review, like he said, he wants to be systematic and not just through a bunch of substances into my system. If estrogen is good and DHT is higher, but I still do not feel semi normal, then we are to introduce low dose dexamethasone 0.5 once a day for four weeks, the slowly narrow the dosage. This is to actually suppress my adrenals to lower my testosterone. Lowering the testosterone slowly, then keeping it lowered for an extended amount of time should resensitize my system to androgens, then we can slowly pull off the dexamethosone and the system should be able to respond normally to androgens, and with doing proviron all this time along with dexamethosone, 5ar1&2 should be stimulated, and since we lowered the amount of test, DHT should be dominate in the pituitary and prostate, thus making fsh and lh normal again sine the pituitary will not be bombarded with excess test. This is the plan and so far it,s working, but it’s very young.
Pretty clever…
I took accutane 4 years ago… for about a week or two i was completely impotent… talked to the doctor and he told me it was fine… and for some reason i stayed completely calm, whilst continuing on the drug. the symptoms compeltely turned around one day to 100% of my former self even while still on the drug. I never connected teh dots because the doctor told me this wan’t related. I went on propecia and now I am in this shithole… lawl
Your Endo sounds brilliant ‘Ihatepropecia’ well done, and I hope you recover soon!
Yes, I took both Propecia and Avodart. Took Propecia for years with not really much of a problem, but Avodart messed me up real bad. Lots of the same problems that people with Post-Finasteride Syndrome have. Avodart is WAYYYYY more powerful than Propecia and it has the same chemical effect in the body in terms of blocking the production of DHT.
Any updates here?
Yes, please update.
Anyone can get hold of proviron and arimidex.
Guys, could we please stay on topic. Please discuss theories and recovery strategies in the appropriate sections.
Thanks.
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Dear All, I came here to warn all of you about the most dangerous medicine that I have taken in my entire life - AVODART. I have BPH. I was given Avodart. The medicine destroyed by Penis and my Mind.
I have never felt so depressed ever. the thoughts that go through my mind are so dangerous that I can not describe in words. I have survived because of my wife. Massive depression coupled, with a destroyed penis, has taken away a huge part of my life.
I am an eternal Optimist. An atheist. I know I will survive unless cancer kills me.
Just want to ask around if anybody has managed to recover his penis after getting damaged by Avodart. We will have more discussion as time goes by.
I am sorry to hear. Strangewise, I feel better after I took Avodart for 2 weeks. My condition stems from taking Finasteride (Propecia) for some years. After I took Avodart, I had to wait for 8 to 10 weeks before things improved for me. Have you tried to take Avodart for two weeks and then stopping it? Maybe it will also help to improve your condition. At least from what you write, I don’t think it would make things worse.
Hope you recover.