And then goes on to defend finasteride http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/showthread.php/87520-FIN-PFS-how-common-is-it?p=1200040&viewfull=1#post1200040
Admin also posted this PFS research study here http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/showthread.php/87735-Research-Study-on-Post-Finasteride-Syndrome-Your-input-requested?p=1199811&viewfull=1#post1199811
Interesting post. Although it doesn’t come across as defensive of finasteride, it does seem like the site admin is taking a devil’s advocate approach and choosing his words carefully. Unfortunately, he may also be correct in saying that most finasteride users don’t experience side effects at the degrees of severity the way this community has. Many of us have been unlucky enough to suffer through terrible, persistent sides for years, but we do have to admit that many users tolerate the drug well. That includes myself. After an adjustment period of a few months, I had no cognitive or sexual issues while on finasteride. My hormone levels may have told another story, but I didn’t suffer until a few months following cessation.
Admittedly, it would have been fabulous to see the admin of a hair loss site publicly denounce the use of finasteride, but that won’t be happening any time soon. I’m thankful for the mere fact that he posted his story and shared out those surveys. Being the site admin has to provide some clout and maybe will encourage the medical community and general public to take this issue more seriously.
Well, has he got PFS?
He mentioned he had low testosterone and Clomid effectively restored that, alleviating him of symptoms.
Propecia may have contributed to low testosterone - but as so many of us found out increasing testosterone has done little to nothing for our condition.
This is probably why there’s a couple guys posting about how TRT is the solution. It is for them, probably because finasteride caused them low testosterone and its a matter of inducing or replacing it.
For the rest of us - we either never had low testosterone or found increasing it has zero effect.
This misses the point. The question is not “is propecia good or bad?” Or “is propecia harmful?” It’s clear that many people, probably a large majority, have few problems with it, and that it stops hair loss in many cases.
The problem is that some people experience seemingly irreversible, life-altering side effects. So the question he should be asking is – “is it OK to suggest this treatment to people, or for Merck to sell it, when potential users do not know that they’re risking being chemically lobotomized and having their sex lives destroyed?”
People need to know about the risks. “Just trying propecia” is not the way to find out about how you feel about the risks. You need to know BEFORE you take it.
Anyways, interesting post from what seems like a deeply conflicted person.
What I don’t understand is how some people can take propecia for years without any side effects yet other people take it for just a few days and have their lives destroyed by it.
His reaction is really unexpected for a guy suffering from PFS. He says that he has been affected for 13 years but is still recommending people try Propecia to see how they tolerate it - especially when he knows the side effects can be permanent and there is potentially no going back.
Can somebody confirm this is real? Why has HLT supposedly been a hotbed of PFS deniers if the guy who runs it supposedly had his own life ruined by the drug?
Update:
WTF - a couple of years ago the same ‘Admin’ basically denied that possibility of being able to get PFS within a month of taking the drug. He claims he only has permanent damage because he took the drug for 3.5 years after side effects first onset. He then blames patients for causing the damage to themselves, meanwhile completely neglecting to note that the product label tells you that if you ‘continue’ taking the drug the side effects will likely go away.
Um maybe this:
hairlosstalk.com/shop/
Has something to do with it?
I’ve personally witnessed disgraceful lies, corruption and cut throat behavior in the hair loss industry. It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the case here.
This guy is an idiot!
I dont know why u people are discussing this.
Gets PFS, but keeps pushing propecia to frienda and family, as well as websites.
Its because of people like this that i got in this situation
Its basically like merck who develops the drug, knows the permanenet side effects exist but still pushes it.
Idiot.
He makes an unnecessary song and dance out of saying that we don’t believe most people who take it don’t get side effects.
Of course we know that the huge majority of people don’t get side effects (though they do seem to go quiet whenever they get asked to participate into a study on Propecia…).
What would be interesting is if suddenly the drug is banned and people can’t take it anymore…
People in that site work for merck or what??
Everytime i say i havebpermanenet side effects they tell me how thats not possible.
I tell them its gyno amd its obersavable…
They keep going on and on about how no one should listen to me.
I want to punch them
Post usage has nothing to do with it. At this point if you crashed…
Pulling the drug ain’t going to help you. Would be nice to know it’s off the market.
Any lawsuit outcome will not be commensurate to the damages.
Study may confirm some of the damage, not sure if they are going to bring to light the full scope of damage.