Ginger and Black Pepper.. really?

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New Delhi, India

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23, 5’9, 63kg

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Sexual
[ x] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
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I’m a 23 year old guy from New Delhi, India. I have been struggling with hairloss since I was 17, I used to browse hairloss forums all day, tried a couple of generic indian treatments (biotin, zinc, commercial formulations) with no avail. When I was 18 I came across hairloss-help which suggested a curcumin and blackpepper and curcumin tea for hairloss, that very day I made myself a ginger and black pepper tea had it before sleeping - it had so much pepper that it absolutely burnt my throat yet I finished it in my desperation to fight hairloss. The very next day I woke up without morning wood, and feeling something had changed in my body. I was in complete panic I couldn’t even get it up for a regular masterbation session, I always noticed my first erection was floppy but the next would be better and the third would be fine, I was lying to myself telling myself there nothing wrong. but my first erection of the day while jerking off was totally floppy. Fast forward to today, my eq is horrible. I’ve tried alot of things, eaten healthy. gymmed, the only thing that worked in the middle was when I used to eat raw garlic but who am I kidding I should be able to get erect without it, I cant depend on other things, I’ve even tried cialis 5mg and worked the first day but the effects weened off over a while. I have only got partial erections when I’m with a woman, even now when I masterbate its floppy. The inconistency is what bothers me so much, some days it’ll be fine and somedays it’ll feel like I’m back to square one. Maintaining an erection is the hardest at the moment. Can’t believe a tea could cause this. Could anyone confirm any bad effects from black pepper or ginger? and how can I get over this? I can swear my penis has changed texture too, looks like the sink has sunken in and the arteriest are more prominent. there is an artery on the top and it looks like theres a clot on it. My erections are always weak at the base and point downward. I’m currently taking tribulus and eating very very healthy. I’ll know when I’m cured when I wake up with strong morning wood, till then none of the urologists or doctors can tell me its in my head and dismiss me. I try to practice nofap too thought I should mention. I really dont have a major compulsion to masterbate like I used to and its easy to do nofap.

“since I was 17, I used to browse hairloss forums all day, tried a couple of generic indian treatments (biotin, zinc, commercial formulations) with no avail”
I think its not ginger nor black tea, I think there was saw palmetto or an other 5 ar blocker in the commercial formulations.

I still have the kit with me, I finished half of it. It’s called trichosphere. It has different pills for every day but none of it has any saw palmetto I just checked. I drank the tea burnt my throat and ruined my erectile function from that day.

Can you upload pic of the product here?
we can browse and maybe other ingredients are there which might be 5 AR inhibitors.
BTW there has been theory P450 inhibitors being the real culprits. Black pepper is 450 inhibitor.
Piperine, a major constituent of black pepper, inhibits human P-glycoprotein and CYP3A4

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(The kit Is called trichospire)

One of the boxes is missing but I’m 100% sure it didn’t have saw palmetto, I was totally fine when I was taking these and I can tell you with 100% certainty it was the tea (it was loaded with hot black pepper totally wrecked my throat and now I’m guessing my liver?). The change happened overnight. Went from not being able to not masterbate thrice a day to floppy erections and masterbating for the heck of it. I have been browsing this forum for the past week and did some reading on P450 as well. I don’t want to suffer for my stupidity any longer but I was a desperate kid trying to grow back my hair. How would one induce the p450 enzymes and test your hypothesis? I’ve been eating alot of vegetables, mainly broccoli because I read its an inducer but all my effort seems in vain and a shot in the dark because even after all these years I haven’t actually ever managed to cure my problem and get back to 100%

Please clarify. you drank Black pepper + Ginger tea and got worse. But what this product trichosphere has to do with your tea?