Well dude,
I’m actually a really sensitive guy… And thinks with couples and that stuff affects me I think too much… WIth this girl I had a lot of ups and downs until by may of this year we were still talking (I was still loving her) and suddenly she said she was dating someone else and that fucked me up… I was keeping moving but you know, inside of me that was hard… So could be one of the triggers… who knows…
THe think is that right now I’m not good… But if I recovered once, now that I didn’t take anything have to do it again.
Look, this day I’ve been recovering mails and stuff from the first crash (april 2015) until my 100% recovery (may 2016) more or less, but until october 2016 didn’t say it in the forum…
THe things I did were not too much,
by may of 2015 i took a pills that are called Dogmatil, just because I couldn’t control my anxietty and insmonia.
That helped me I think a lot with this issue, and allowed me to keep going with live but still with complete impotence…
So in sexual terms, everything improved reaaaaally slow, just with time. Months with complete impotence, didn’t even touch it ( I had even penile shrinkle)… Then sometime I woke up with weak erections… and then I was able to put a video and have a boner… bit a bit…
Then, by october of 2016 (still reaaaaally heavy ED) I went to an endocronologist and she gave me a multivitaminic called CN-Base and a Liver detox called Scientific liver detox.
I took them during a month or so… And the sexual sides were still improving on that time…
By march of 2016 I was quite better and on April I meet a girl for first time one year later… I had a really good sex with her but I took a small piece of cialis… From that day I kept having sex with girls and my live came back… Till 2 fucking weeks ago ;(
In this 2 weeks though, I have had complete impotence, except last sunday that I could have erection and I jerked off… So at least was an improvement…
But right now I think the worst side is the fucking tiredness I have… Im sleepy all the day and I was having so much energy before…
Im taking vitamin D now…
Last summer, I had a period where I was having a really bad brain fog, I also had some ED but nothing really heavy, I recovered in some months… So maybe now can be the same.
You can see my post “I WAS RECOVERED”
Thank you mate
It was probably the vitamins, most likely the biotin. Anything that can regrow hair is probably dangerous.
I think there’s every reason to think that your current position will improve.
As you have recovered before, and not with a bolt of lightning and then a sudden return to form, I think your body did the necessary things and righted itself. It’s possible that it could be a quicker recovery this time around, since your body has already gone through the process.
It’s good that you know what you did before too so you can hopefully replicate the steps. You should document your progress - I hope you won’t need it again but you might be able to help someone else with the info.
Drop me a PM if you need support.
do you think?? I’m not sure… I’ve been reading and don’t think that has nothing to do with all this mess… As I said I was feeling really tired already before they put the vitamins… and some time I felt my erections not as hard as always… so maybe I was gonna crash anyway…
Well… fingers crossed to be better.
You didn’t mention that earlier and I haven’t kept up with all your posts.
If it wasn’t the vitamins then your androgens just got worse by themselves, like I said before in my first reply to your topic.
I don’t see why it matters either way, you have PFS again now and nothing besides luck is going to fix it.
David, it is time to restart and create a log with your symptoms and protocols.
You will get help for sure in case you dont see any progress and it would be something finally credible AS you recovered already once.
Looking forward to your log! Raphael
Most Vitamins interact with 5AR/androgens in some way.
Have you done any blood work recently?
Surgery, stress, anxiety can ALL lower hormones DRASTICALLY. These might have been contributing factors to how you feel now and your lower hormones could be making you feel this way. You may not even have this genetic issue that a lot of us have. Hypogonadism can cause a lot of your sides that you explained such as ED, low energy, no sex drive, etc.
Hello mate,
Yes I did have a really extense bloodtest… All came up good, except Vitamin D… Testosterone was good (quite high)… So I don’t really now what is going on… It has been an horrible week, today I feel a bit better though, I woke up and don’t feel this mix of tiredness and brainfog so heavy that I was feeling… It has been so so so hot here in Spain these 2 last weeks, sweating while sleeping at night etc…and casually yesterday it rained a lot and the temperatures went down drastically…(from 38º to 21º) I went out yesterday to take some freshair after the rain… Don’t know but I’m feeling a bit better today.
Still tired, the path is gonna be long again but hope to improve with time again…
Thank you so much Gents93.
When was this blood test and can you share some actual values with their respective ranges?
Any protocol so far? Just time? I dont see any clear symptoms of other pfs guys. I am out here. Good luck.
The bloodtest is from 1 month ago (4th of july), I put the more relevant, low vitamin D and then the sex hormones… Sorry everything is in Spanish… right now I’m feeling stil reaaally tired, can’t sleep well, not enjoying absolutely anything…Don’t know what’s going on but my libido is super high, and right now I do can have erections but not as hard as before…just some day ago I was impotent…
If you have any doubt about the bloodtest just let me know.
Thx
At the moment my protocol right now is that I’m taking a multivitaminic called CN base, another one from reishi mushroom, and vitamin D.
I don’t know man if is PFS or not, I ensure you that I had it on 2015, reaaaally bad sides, and finally (for me was just time) I recovered 100%… I have had some downs, for example u can read my post called I WAS RECOVERED…
But the downs have been never like now… Bit a bit since 2 months ago was harder to keep the erections, more tired every time…since almost 2 weeks ago that I became almost impotent, and every morning I couldn’t even wake up from bed because of this tiredness… since then I have improved again the sexual sides (far from 100%, not feeling the same in the orgasm, stil hard to get the erection… but at least now I can have erections, have libido) but the tirednees is not going out, it’s mixed with a brainfog, and a feeling of that everything is shit (kind of depression I guess)… Yesterday I was kind of better… but just a mirage I guess… Hopefully in some weeks I could say this was just very big bump to get a permanent recovery…
Reishi mushrooms are 5 alpha reductase inhibitors - like propecia/Finasteride. You might want to avoid that supplement.
I think you dont have severe symptoms or pfs at all. If, very very mild form.
But Low testo. Right. Thyroid problem. Yes. High prog, right? Hint: buy potassium chloride and rise up the dosage. I dont see any evidence (blood results, minerals, synptoms) for pfs. My personal opinion.
But you have very low Vit.d levels. You are tired, oft course. Get outta in the sun for several hours a day. Immediately. Depression is very possible. Your intake of vit.d cant be sufficient unless you take 500000 IU a day. Believe me.
With multivitamins or Vit.d intakte, you cannot treat pfs.
Good luck!
Hello guys,
Wanted to make an update of my state… Since last posted there has been some changes…
Well, in my last post I said I was a bit better in sex terms (still fucing shit but more at least I had a bit of libido and could have some weak erections…) Well, that was on august 11th… On august 13 I went to my holidays trip (China and Philippines), didn’t feel like to go, but I had everything booked already and I though it could help the fact to move out from home…
The trip was fucking hard, some days I was like a zombie… Some other days I had more energy and even enjoyed some things… The main problem was the energy, I tried to have erections almost every day… Some days I could have them, some mornings I was waking up with weak erections too… But never fully erection…
So I sayed 20 days and came back home…Just the day after coming back I woke up and I was not feeling this heavy tiredness… and I woke up with a powerfull erection… My libido suddenly got super high and I could have erections again. That lasted 2 weeks more or less… Since then I’m still able to get erections but not as hard as normal and not as easy as normal…
This is like a roller coaster… I’m sick of it… My tiredness is going and coming as well…But at the moment never as heavy as before the trip…
You know guys, I think most of the things of this mess are hormones… I mean… Before pfs and since I had 23 years old, my hair became greasy and it changed a lot, more weak, falling down a lot… this is why I started to take finasteride… So all these years my hair was like this… never changed and it was so shit and fustrating for me… Right… So when I got pfs (CRASH on april 2015) my hair changed again, A LOT! I swear guys, I didn’t give a shit, because I was suffering from impotence, anxiety, panic attacs etc…But I noticed that grease disappeared, and my hair wasn’t falling as much as normally, in the shower, the pillow etc… It became stronger… Then, bit a bit I got rid of all the symptoms, and my hair kept like this over the time… I was fucking happy because a part of recovering of PFS symptoms my hair was better than ever, so I started to live with no worries at all enjoying everything in life, coul touch my hair with no worries, could stay without cleaning my hair for 2 or 3 days with no problems… WAS AMAZING! My hair was like this all second half of 2015, all 2016, all 2017 and part of 2018… Also I was sleeping better than ever, resting a lot, lot of energy to make sport, having inside a feeling of happines… I even got a house on june of 2017 because I was focused again in live, and wanted to move on and moving from my parents and start live again…
The thing guys is that after all this second CRASH I had last july/august as i’m saying I recovered agin from sexual sides, tirednees etc…(with ups and downs, now not very well) but the thing is that my hair changed a loooot again… Since a I came from the trip I noticed my hair so greasy again, falling down much more, weak etc etc… What a fucking nightmare… So this is why I think is all hormones… Is like my body have had 2 big changes in hormonal terms, and during this perido the body can’t function properly until it get balanced again… And once I have this, it changes the hair and other things…because now I can’t have that good sleep that I had months ago, no that energy anymore, and my mood is not happy anymore… And guys is not that I’m worried for my hair and this is why I don’t sleep or whatever… It’s something that is not working good in my body, and it makes my hair like this, my sleep like this and my mood like this… I spent so many years thinking that everything was because I was worried for my hair, but it wasn’t… It was something bad in my body… This is maybe the explanation of why all the 4 years that I took finasteride it never stopped my hair falling down, because maybe it wasn’t AGA, and yes, finasteride finally made a big CRASH in my hormone system and this is why then my hair changed… and now it changed again… I don’t now guys, maybe all this that I’m saying has not sense at all, but I swear that all these feelings and sensatios are completely REAL, I feel it exactly as I’m explain all this… So well, I’m on a diet now… gonna try to mae sport, and keep going… hopefully I can feel again 100% in sex and energy terms… I will try to deal with the greasy thing and the shit hair… but wanna feel like before at least in all the other things…
thank you guys
It is about uprwgulated AR, changed/mutated 5AR and genetics. Not hormones themselves.
If it was only hormonal, you could add just Testo. But TRT is no cure.
Some have very good hormonal level but still pfs. Maybe, you don’t have pfs but only hormonal problems.