Getting so much worse after 100% recovered

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#1

Hello guys,
I’ve posted before aobut this, in a topic called I WAS RECOVERED.

I had a crash in 2015, I recovered myself in 7 months more or less, the side effect that more lasted was ED…
I had an incredible 2016, and big part of 2017 was great… by may of 2017 had a bit of up and downs again, having like brainfog, not energy… etc. But I get better again with time.
So I’ve been quite good, until 1,5 months ago… the thing is that i’m worse than ever (since I recovered)… I feel really tired, my libido went down, morning erections disappeared… I was having morning erections every single day!
Don’t understand what’s going on… I was fucking recovered!!! I’ve been looking if someone experienced again side effect since recovering…
The 2 things I think made me worse;
By december of 2017 I fell down while snowboarding and injured my shoulder so bad, still recovering and cannot do sport (was playing footbal and being very active before). Also is affecting my mood since stil hurts a lot and is like 6 months since I got the injury.
By january of 2017 got a new girlfriend, had an amazing time but from july of 2017 I’ve been with ups and downs with her, really traumatic, and since 3 months ago more or less it finally ended and she’s also with another guy… That fucked me up a lot actually…

So I don’t know if all this emotional stress made me stay bad again… Maybe PFS is a condition that is always there and you get worse with emotional stress or work stress and so…?

I’m really fucked up… since I was enjoying live so much again… Was really good actually. Now have to deal again… second fucking time!!

I had a life again, even I got a new house last year…still not living there since I had to make it ready to live, and now that is ok I can’t manage to go and live alone…

Does any of you guys felt recovered and the got worse?? I’ve recovered many times when I have had downs, but never as I’m right now…

Thank you all.

#2

People with PFS randomly get better and worse all the time, you can see for yourself if you read around the forum/google enough. Usually once your symptoms improve they stay improved unless you take other drugs that make them worse, maybe you took some for your shoulder injury and didn’t know they were dangerous. But anything can happen with or without other drugs. And I doubt the emotional stress triggered your symptoms again but anything’s possible.

#3

Well emotional stress raises cortisol and lowers t of course. That could easily lead to a crash for pfs guys.

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#4

The only thing I took was Ibuprofen… Im not taking medicines anymore since the PFS… But it’s true that I’ve been drinking some weekend lately… So maybe was this… don’t know…But I haven’t seen anyone here that stay recovered for more than 1 year and then got worse…

#5

It was probably just bad luck then since you didn’t take anything else, out of your control.

I saw one guy in the last couple of months here who came back to the forum couldn’t believing he crashed again after like a decade. I’m too lazy to look for the post but there are people that got better and then worse again.

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#6

Ibuprofen affects your hormones.

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#7

Ibuprofen is poison. Dont touch it never again.

#8

Is there a painkiller we can use?

#9

What for? Where do you have pain? Find the root, treat the root and get pain free.

#10

Better not use Ibuprofen or other painkillers. I suffered a headache for over 3 years and I know it all because of my bad emotion. I took pills then I got better, but I became more and more somnolent and sluggish. I don’t know how this happened or if this is common.

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#11

Hello guys, wanted to do an update and see if someone here have an idea of what is happening…

As I said in this post I started to feel bad 2 months ago more or less… The thing is, far to improve the sides, these have gone so so worse… It’s a week ago now that I completely lost my erections, complete impotence, and a mix of brainfog sometimes and a horrible tiredness… I can’t even be fluent at work… I’m really bad…
As I said in some posts I was completeley recovered from the CRASH in 2015, I was 100% back guys, and it has been like this almos 2 years… And now don’t really understand what’s going on…

I wanted your opinion guys, aobut what I’m gonna explain. As I said I was fucking good, but 2 months ago that I started to feel tired, my sexdrive sometimes wasn’t the same… Also I started to fell my hair more greasy… So I decide to go to a doctor that was dermatologist but he was like cecking all the parameters in your body, trating your whole body not just your skin or so…

He checked everything, and also said to me, “we are gonna make a hair test as well” Then this girl came, explained me what they were gonna do and aslo another girl said, we are gonna put this vitamins in your hair as well to make it stronger. I did not even pay attention, and I said ok ok…

The thing guys is that in the 2nd visit to this doctor, he ckecked all the results of the blood tests and that stuff and at the end he said (im gonna give you this natrual things bla bla bla and also said, “and for your hair im gonna give you…” I quickly response “I don’t want nothing for my hair since I had all the problem I told you taking this poison” and he also said “Ok don’t worry, I also was gonna give you this lotion we are making here but we can put out Dutasteride”
I was like “Wait, Did the vitamins you put me have this shit inside??” And he said that not, that this were just vitamins… But the way he said i’m not sure… So guys, I was already feeling myself bad, but also since that I’m feeling worse… If this shit were with Dutasteride I think I’m fucked ain’t I???
Since I was fucking recovered but for us any single shit of that can destroy us again…
Tomorrow i’m gonna find out if it really were just vitamins or what… But I’m scared guys…

You think that even a small dose of that shit could CRASH me again right???

Than you guys…

#12

Yes, @newton developed PFS after using fin, feeling better for many months then using a natural topical hair product which contained a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor. People have often reported developing mild PFS symptoms from using minoxidil topically (also a 5ari).

If I were you I’d phone and ask specifically what was in the product they gave you. I would wager it contained an antiandrogenic or 5ari substance.

#13

Thank you mate,

Yeah tomorrow I’m going to ask that… Actually I’m fucking really scared…
As I said I recovered myself 100% for 1,5 years… The thing is that I was already feeling myself strange before going to that doctor… But now is worse!
Did these guys recover themselves again after this second CRASH??

Thank you

#15

Wtf!!! Putting this fuck or similar things in Shampoos? Vitamins? For me it is clear, men are going to be destroyed. This is the plan. Okay.
Never go to a doc re your hair or prostate. NEVER EVER. Groaarr.

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#16

I know… dont know yet but gonna found out tomorrow… I’m scared men… What about if is natural inhibitor…? I recovered once…100% dudes I swear… Maybe I can do it again can’t I??

#17

Okay David, lets do some bloodwork.
Would you mind doing that? It would be cool. .You could create a recovery blog. It would be nice to see your symptoms and steps undertaken to cure yourself again. We might try it AS well (your steps) and be cured finally. At least some. Many THX Dave. Raphael

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#18

Yes, although not as powerful natural inhibition is still inhibition. People are here after using saw palmetto. Regarding recovery, that’s very lucky. I would therefore remain optimistic considering you’ve bounced back before. In the mean time if I were you I’d certainly be steering clear of anything a dermatologist wants to stick on you. All the best.

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#19

Sin%20t%C3%ADtulo

Just went to the doctor and they gave me (even showed the bottles) of the stuff the put on my hair…
Was -Inositol - pantothenic acid - aminobenzoic acid and also Biotin…

So dont think I crashed because of that since are just natural vitamins… what u think guys?
THen I don’t fuking know why I am like that… but I’m quite fucked up… Hope to improve again since I didnt take any drug and I was 100% recovered… I’m taking VItamin D now cause it came low in my last bloodtest…

THank you guys

#20

I’m sorry to hear about this, David.

I wonder if stress was the trigger as you’ve suggested. Would you say that your feelings about your relationship were something that were weighing on you heavily or were you moving along and generally getting over it?

Did you have a system to recover before? Could you replicate it?

#21

Well dude,
I’m actually a really sensitive guy… And thinks with couples and that stuff affects me I think too much… WIth this girl I had a lot of ups and downs until by may of this year we were still talking (I was still loving her) and suddenly she said she was dating someone else and that fucked me up… I was keeping moving but you know, inside of me that was hard… So could be one of the triggers… who knows…
THe think is that right now I’m not good… But if I recovered once, now that I didn’t take anything have to do it again.
Look, this day I’ve been recovering mails and stuff from the first crash (april 2015) until my 100% recovery (may 2016) more or less, but until october 2016 didn’t say it in the forum…
THe things I did were not too much,
by may of 2015 i took a pills that are called Dogmatil, just because I couldn’t control my anxietty and insmonia.
That helped me I think a lot with this issue, and allowed me to keep going with live but still with complete impotence…
So in sexual terms, everything improved reaaaaally slow, just with time. Months with complete impotence, didn’t even touch it ( I had even penile shrinkle)… Then sometime I woke up with weak erections… and then I was able to put a video and have a boner… bit a bit…
Then, by october of 2016 (still reaaaaally heavy ED) I went to an endocronologist and she gave me a multivitaminic called CN-Base and a Liver detox called Scientific liver detox.
I took them during a month or so… And the sexual sides were still improving on that time…
By march of 2016 I was quite better and on April I meet a girl for first time one year later… I had a really good sex with her but I took a small piece of cialis… From that day I kept having sex with girls and my live came back… Till 2 fucking weeks ago ;(
In this 2 weeks though, I have had complete impotence, except last sunday that I could have erection and I jerked off… So at least was an improvement…
But right now I think the worst side is the fucking tiredness I have… Im sleepy all the day and I was having so much energy before…
Im taking vitamin D now…
Last summer, I had a period where I was having a really bad brain fog, I also had some ED but nothing really heavy, I recovered in some months… So maybe now can be the same.
You can see my post “I WAS RECOVERED”
Thank you mate