Yep, that is happening to my ejaculation lately. Furthermore, i donĀ“t even get a full erection when i am about to ejaculate. I will be posting my semiogram when i get it done.
I am interested in meds to cope with fatigue, almost no libido and severe ed. If only i could find something like that in a pharmacyā¦
I may buy some wellbutrim. Where do you get it?
Cheers
are you gonna try an estrogen blocker?
you can try some indolplex dim, calcium d glucarate, chrysin with piperine
or aromasin low dose, arimidex perhaps
The doctor didnāt prescribe me any, so I assume I donāt need it.
On mirtazapine 75mgs a day and 0.5mg cabergoline twice a week for one month until my next vdoctor visit.
Well, it seems that Jairus is fighting very strongly against this nightmare. I am glad not only for this good news but also because this can be helpful for all of us.
Jairus mate, i would like to know about you cialis treatment, whether you ended up taking it daily or in a differet dose and how it worked on you.
Well, regarding myself, i took one month ago the reaction test to FSH and LH increment (sorry, im not an expert in this issue so i donāt know the concrete name of the test in English) but clearly the response was very low, which means that even though i got my hormones estimulateD, apparently they donāt react with the intensity which is expected from a āsaneā male.
2 years and a half after discontinuation, I can assure that i have been sexually screewed for at least one year and a half. Fatigue, some depression and a bit of brainfog are still there too but my endo is not sure about the path to follow.
Cheers
Thank you, reeeff
I only tried the cialis treatment for 2 weeks. It works to have better erections (or an erection) when manipulated / estimulated. Saves you the date, but libido is missing. I might try the treatment for longer once I test the results of cabergoline, which for the moment are insignificant.
Also, mirtazapine doesn not help with the fuzzyness of the mind, although it relieves depression symptoms to some extent. But lack of motivation for things and of mental focus is still there. Hopefully cabergoline will help with that and if it doesnāt I may go back to edronax / wellbutrin or try ritalin in combination with mirtazapine.
What is the name of that test you took in your language?
i believe he is referring to the clomid stimulation test, which pumps out more LH and thus more testosterone, if your nuts are healthy enough 
thanks!
Well, it is me the only nut over here lol as i forgot the name of the test (due to my lack of memory post-finas side effect, which is quite severe in my case). Its name is GNRH test, very well known on this forum and basically consists of admistering a fixed amount of the gonadrotrophin hormone to kick off your Fsh and Lh production and measures whether your pituitary works properly. In my case the response was very low, I do not remember the exact values, sorry, but i am abroad right now so i cannot check the test info right now. Anyway, my endo said this test revealed a kind of deficiency in my pituitary response. Actually, values were at the botton ot the range, doesnāt it sound familiar?
Therefore, this may reflect jariusā side effects may come exactly from the same source as me: pituitary lack of response to stimulous. It may be working just at a 25% of capacity so i can sometimes keep weak erections.
This is just my theoric point of view, of course, but my ED persists, so does my lack of libido and quite a few mental problems and fatigueā¦
thanks, mate. Iāll ask my endo about this test. however, he concluded my axis works fine as i am producing sufficiently enough testosterone after tamoxifen.
So been 5 weeks on cabergoline, 2 or 3 at 0.5 mg twice per week, and one time having 0.75 mg and another 1mg in a week and nothing happened. No sides, no erections.
Seeing the doctor in 3 weeks for maybe am erection test with some drug that makes your body have one even if you donāt want. You could keep it for up to 4 hours, he said, as long as you donāt have venous leaks.
Going back in reboxetine again; feel some more energy in the morning and better concentration, but not ideal.
Hello all:
I want to report an improvement in the sexual side effects:
Last week I had a full erection withou manipulation, just watching some porn and having mental fantasies. Itās been the first such an erection since the last years with finasteride and all the time thereafter; maybe totalling around 8-10 years. I purposedly engaged in such activity to test to which extent I could get an erection. On the previous day / weeks I had been feeling a connection with the penis, I was having stronger and more frequent nocturnal and morning erections and I had a bit of libido and ocassional sexual thoughts. When I tried this previously, the most I could achieve was significant vascularization of the penis and its humectation, but no erection at all.
I discussed this with my doctor and he said that maybe it is the mirtazapine, but we donāt really know.
Nocturnal and morning erections are more frequent and stronger; as many as 3 days in a row and 4 or 5 days in a week, but not every single week. I still canāt mantain morning erections when awaken, though.
During a window of 2-3 weeksā time and 3 weeks before this happened, I had been weight lifting intensively and having around 18 gr. of creatine monohydrate per day on the first week, then around 7gr per day; plus glutamine after exercising 3-4 times per week, and 5 - 8 IU daily of Vitamine D3. However, I donāt think this is the cause of the improvement as I had creatine monohydrate and high doses of Vitame D3 before and didnāt experience any improvements. I also tried on three ocassions having 20 grs. of L-arginine before sleep to see if I could have better nocturnal / morning erections, but it didnāt happen (actually on those days I had no morning erections).
Also, at the doctorsā clinic I had an injection in my penis to check for venous leaks and it seems I donāt have any, as I had almost a full erection (and artificial and painful) lasting more than an hour. I had a delayed reaction, though, as it took more than the usual time to have the effect.
On the brain fog side, I am on 8mgs./ day of reboxetine, which helps significantly, but is not optimal.
Depression is gone at 60mg of mirtazapine and 8mgs of reboxetine per day.
Good things about mirtazapine: helps me conciliating sleep (havenāt got any issues here anymore); makes me rest well and have vivid dreams that I can recall, which didnāt happen before, and gives me serenity, relieving anguish feelings and making me feel more myself. The only bad thing is that it makes me sleep too much and leaves me sluggish furing the day, so I have to resort to caffeine pills and to teas / coffees to function well at a mental level and have energy. This is a major drawback as it is incapacitating for a normal work / study life, so I am lowering the dose of mirtazapine now and might switch back into buproprion.
Overall energy levels are better than before, but I am still lacking a morning kick thatās sustained during the day.
I had bloodwork done, which I will post when I get it from the doctor. Testosterone came lower than the last time: 14nmol/L vs 20.80 nmol/L (9.00 - 30.00), but I got tested at nearly 4pm, and according to the doctor testosterone levels will be lower at that time. My 14nmol/L would correspond to aroun 18nmol/L in the morning, which is a normal testosterone level for adults.
With all this, the next steps will be:
My doctor also mentioned that I may try modafinil to improve focus, but that we will assess this later, to act upon one thing at a time. Also, thereās some interaction problems of modafinil with the other drugs, so I will have to quit some of them if I follow the modafinil route.
Thatās all for now; will post the test results soon.
Keep on fighting, guys; we have to believe that there will eventually be something that fixes us and meanwhile thereās a number of ways we can explore to patch up some of the more incapacitating issues.
It is good to see that you are seeing some improvement. I havenāt heard of any of the drugs you mentioned apart from Modafinil which I have taken myself (and do not react well too).
Are they supposed to help you with your sexual well being?
tamoxifen induces your body to produce its own testosterone, and that in theory may help with sexual side effects, although it hasnāt worked like that for me so far
mirtazapine is one of the antidepressants that has a lower or null impact on erectyle function. Most of the SSRIās and other types of antidepressants may cause E.D. So changing to mirtazapine may help with sexual function.
reboxetine does NOT help with sexual function; impotence is one of the side effects stated in its prospectus. I take it to combat depression and brain fog.
buproprion is an antidepressant acting upon dopamine, so it may be helpful with ED, although I didnāt improve in that aspect while on it. I have had it to treat depression and brain fog.
Hi Jairus,
I am very aware of your sexual problems but I thought you had overcome the others. How bad is your brain fog and depression mate?
In my case, my brain fog has been getting better progesively, although i sometimes forget things I should not to. On the other hand, I do feel a bit down ocassionaly, which may be linked to depression too. Actually my last endo told me she had seen me āa bit downā so tested my dopamine, which was ānot too badā. Well, it is not strange im feeling in that way as i cannot have sex when i want and being young is very connected to sexual necessities.
I am having a new appointment in 4 weeks but still suffering from severe ED and almost no libido at all. I might suggest to her that I could start with some TRT treatment, which was out of the table 3 months ago, but as I am still feeling crap I will insist on it very likely. However, as many guys here havenĀ“t had any improvement on TRT, im not very excited to start it either.
I am trying to handle brainfog with the meds. Currently keeping it 70% at bay, but been feeling sluggish probably due to the mirtazapine. Iāve stopped taking it and Iāll get back to buproprion + reboxetine. Even if reboxetine has sexual side-effects; the worse side is brainfog by far, so if it gets somehow alleviated thatās a success.
Glad to hear that your brainfog is improving. Sexual sides are difficult to tackle, though. I am these days back to usual: no libido, few and weak morning erections. I have accepted it as my normal state, so donāt give it too many thoughts.
I thought that dopamine and other neurotransmitters couldnāt be tested for reliably; at least thatās what a psychiatrist told me once. Iām seeing that some people in the forum are getting tested for them; did your doctor commented on testing other neurotransmitters and on the reliability of the test?
Why donāt you propose to your doc to go on clomid / novaldex ? From the experience of many here looks like itās a first step to explore before going on TRT.
mirtazapine, buproprion, reboxetineā¦ why taking these dangerous drugs, when brain fog is most likely related to a hormonal imbalance (and not to brain damage), and easily treated with pregnenolone? Not asking this sarcastically, Iām genuinely curious to know the reason why one should take psychoactive drugs rather than pregnenoloneā¦
Your most recent pregnenolone reading is 3.34 (3.90-13.50)*. If you bring it up to 13.50, you wonāt have any brain fog. That is guaranteed, because pregnenolone āoptimizesā all neurotransmitters (jneurosci.org/cgi/content/full/24/46/10318).
*Good job testing this one.
Who said these are dangerous drugs? As all medications, they have side effects, but they are quite manageable (no sides in my case) The drugs are not dangerous as you unwarrantedly claim.
Furthermore, an imbalance in neurotransmitters is not brain damage (destruction or degeneration of brain cells); give me a break.
I take these drugs because itās the best treatment I have after many years of trial and error always supervised by qualified doctors, who are the ones approving, prescribing and following up on the treatment.
In fact, I have tried pregnenolone in the past and found no significant and sustained improvement, if any at all that be not related to a placebo effect. I will tell you more too: I have tried cabergoline to tackle the problem partially from an hormonal approach as you suggest, and it didnāt work at all for me.
You attack psychoactive medicines undeservedly: they help many people to cope and heal from many mental diseases.
AFAIK none of those drugs are SSRIās. Iāve no doubt this isnāt a coincidence.
If they work for you, thatās great.
Seizure, liver toxicity, allergic reaction, edema, fainting, bone marrow suppression, just to name only a small subset of side effects. But you are right, in that the concept of ādangerousā is very subjective. Therefore, these side effects may be considered not dangerous by you.
I know they help people heal from many mental diseases, but I hope we agree this is not our case
Either you were taking oral (not transdermal) or you were taking too little. Some people are fine with 5 mg; but others require several hundreds mg per day. I have to take more than 250 mg per day to feel the good effect on neurotransmitters. How much were you taking?
I am talking about the hormonal problem that causes brainfog, ie low pregnenolone. That has nothing to do with cabergoline.
āSeizure, liver toxicity, allergic reaction, edema, fainting, bone marrow suppression, just to name only a small subset of side effects. But you are right, in that the concept of ādangerousā is very subjective. Therefore, these side effects may be considered not dangerous by you.ā
You say it all. All drugs have side effects and you have to balance them with the benefits they bring. Some side-effects only affect to a small percentage of the population, and others in people with concomitant conditions / treatments. I trust my doctors. I have experienced no side-effects at all from reboxetine and buproprion. Thatās one reason I keep on taking theme, in addition to help me not feel crap and totally energy-drained when Iām not on them.
āI know they help people heal from many mental diseases, but I hope we agree this is not our case.ā
Some people here complain about depression, and thatās a mental disease. While someone gets to the root of the finasteride side-effects matter, some psychoactive medicines can help people cope with such mental side effects.
āEither you were taking oral (not transdermal) or you were taking too little. Some people are fine with 5 mg; but others require several hundreds mg per day. I have to take more than 250 mg per day to feel the good effect on neurotransmitters. How much were you taking?ā
I donāt remember how much I took, should be in in this thread if I posted it.
āI am talking about the hormonal problem that causes brainfog, ie low pregnenolone. That has nothing to do with cabergoline.ā
I was referring to general side effects, cabergoline lowers prolactine hormone, supposedly increasing libido and improving sexual ability; as a dopamine agonist it may also improve brainfog.