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#1

  1. finland

  2. found with google

  3. I’m in my twenties. I don’t know weight.

  4. I do a lot of sports and hiking.

  5. I eat healthy type of diet.

  6. I took Finasteride for hair loss.

  7. I took it for two days.

  8. I took it when I was 25

  9. I quitted cold turkey

  10. I took Generic local brand proscar divided in parts.

  11. I took 0,5-1mg / day.

  12. My persisting effect from finasteride are:
    Erectile dysfunction. Very small flaccid penis size.Lethargic body.

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[ ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[x] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[x] Loss of Morning Erections
[x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[x] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[x] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ ] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[x Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[x] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[x] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

  1. I have used cialis now and then. Otherwise I can’t do it.

Finasteride seemed to affect fast on me. I two days. I lost the connection between genitals and brain.
I feel numb in genitals and they are shrinked.

Last month has been wonderful for me.
I have felt very good. Motivated and confident. My flaccid is larger and I can get erections without cialis!!!

Sad thing is that this healing did not come by itself. I have taken aromatase inhibitor product called ds triazole.

This is first time in my life I am taking anything that is meant to effect hormones specifically. (Other than finasteride)

It seems this product should not be taken for longer than 8 weeks maximum.

What can I do after 8 weeks? Wait for a month and eat cialis again?

If I could always take triazole and it wouldn’t lose affect I would be very happy.
Any ideas what to do?

#2

Wait wait wait: what happened after 8 weeks? Did the effects fade away or you still don’t know?

Here is a link describing the stuff you are talking about:
orbitnutrition.com/cart/sports-nutrition/triazole-90-extended-release-caps-ds.html

It seems that it can downregulate estrogen receptors.

Opinions?

Please, let us know how is your progress.

#3

I’m sorry for not explaining properly.
The product can only be used for 8 weeks continuously according to the product description.

Now I have taken it for 5-6 weeks and decided to stop today to have a months break.

I will surely! It would be a miracle if the effects continued for the month that I am going to take “off”.
What other products effect similarly to hormones?

#4

So I’ve been off from triazole for three weeks now and yes the difference is clear.
My stuff are smaller and I don’t get morning or random erections AT ALL…I don’t have the libido either anymore that I had on triazole.

So, for now it seems my stuff don’t “work” without triazole or cialis.
I think I will go to doctor and ask if there is something that acts similarly on hormones as triazole that can be taken continuously.
But is that good idea at all? I really don’t want to take any synthetic liver and overall health killing chemical continuously.
I really don’t think synthetic modern chemical drugs are good for us.
I get so depressed when I think of my desperate finasteride episode. It seems I betrayed myself. Poisoned myself.

#5

I know exactly how you feel.

Natural things such as zinc and royal jelly have raised several peoples testosterone levels even after stopping. Royal jelly in particular may be worth a try viewtopic.php?f=6&t=165

#6

Just to be clear, this stuff made your balls bigger and gave you a libido like before fin?

I’m generally very suspicious of these private label potent supplements. Buyer beware.

There’s some rather large claims here and here about this product which purport to be backed up by bloodwork.

Link

#7

Yes that is the product.
It made me feel and look sexually exactly like I did before finasteride messed something.

#8

Triazole is really nothing more than a natural testosterone booster, in the same class as Tribulus, Tongkat Ali, Maca, etc

I also used a similar product back right when my crash happened. It was called Dymatize Z-Force. This made me really horny and I felt normal again. However, the effects ware off after a while. You have to cycle it.

Over time though, it stopped working.

#9

No it’s very different from tribulus in that it also blocks estrogen, tribulus has been reported to cause gyno by many cos it does nothing to stop the test converting into estrogen.
As i understand it the reason why triazole may be a good option is that it lowers estrogen and raises test all without affecting AR.
As for Maca, it is one of the ingredients in triazole. I agree about cycling tho.

#10

It certainly can’t hurt to try this product. I placed an order for a bottle of this stuff and should have it tomorrow. My T is pretty damn low so we’ll see what this does to me as I’m trying to keep up with blood work diligently.

#11

keep us updated dave. if you make a new thread pm me it

#12

Same situation here. I’ll report back once I get it (~2wks due to shipping). I want to get some “clean” bloodwork done before I start this stuff.

#13

I have taken triazole again for two weeks. It still has the same effect. I would absolutely have no problems if I could be on this always.
When I was off it for two months I had no random erections only couple of morning woods and my stuff went very small again.
I am normal* sized and my balls are very normal and they even hang. When I was off they were just against my body , never hanging.
Like I said my genitals seem like kids version. Triazole changes this completely.
On two month I was off I too cialis again sometimes. About 7mg two times / week keeps it in normal flaccid size and I can get erections.

I only like the erections more that I get on tri. They feel more natural.
I need to reserve appointment to urologist and ask if he can give me something else that cialis. I don’t want T shots anyway.
If going that route I understand I would need to take them always.

Hope my english is okay :slight_smile:

*(normal being the size that my genitals were before trying finasteride)

#14

visionquest the guy who you refered “BryanM” in the link anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/159037-just-how-effective-5.html

became hypo after a car accident. do you know more about him? I mean is he a primary or secondary?
how is he treating himself?

#15

You should get full bloodwork while ON Triazole and then compare it to OFF.

I had the same effect the first few years post crash with Dymatize Z-Force. It would make me feel like I was 17 again. Over the years though it began to work less and less. Now not at all. Hope you dont notice the same trend with Triazole.

#16

Hey SP,

I dont know anything about BryanM. It’s sad to learn that he’s gyno.

I did purchase this stuff. It came at a time when I was doing well so I didnt use it. I may give it a go when i’m feeling low.

#17

I want to update my trials with the aromatase inhibitor ,triazole.
I have found that it makes me feel great. It also makes my testicles grow and hang like they did pre-finasteride.
While on it, I get night and morning erections - which does not really seem to happen without triazole or pde-5 inhibitor.

However , it does not seem help with erections “when needed”.
It seems that I need to use pde-5 inhibitor to have erections “when needed”.

Sometimes I just feel absolutely nothing on my penis although I think I should be aroused. Stimulating it doesn’t feel like anything.

This is sad but I have reserved time for doctor.
I will update if I go to hormonal tests or something happens.

#18

I met doctor.
I told my story and that while on natural aromatase inhibitor things seem more normal but not fully functional still.

My testosterone was: 19nmol/l - range 10-38.
I quit triazole two weeks ago. Now taking zma & maca.

I told I get too much serious side effects from pde-5 inhibitors.
I am not going to take taladafil,sildenafil,or vardenafil ever again. I have had serious chest pains and dizziness from them.
Had to call ambulance for the pain and dizziness once.

Still I am offered more of these drugs…

I have to seek other doctor that is interested in helping me.
I don’t want more pde-5 inhibitors and goodbye. Is that what doctors are supposed to do?
I have been told twice that two days on fin can not cause this and that my test levels are fine.

It seems I start sentences with “I”… sorry for poor english.

#19

you’re lucky that cialis works on you, on me there’s almost no difference.

#20

yes lucky but I have irregular heartbeat so I should use with caution. Two doctors that took the EKG at the time of chest pains said I should not take it or others of the three drugs. My urologist didn’t listen to me for some reason.