what i don’t get it is that the site says for some users it can take weeks to days to maybe even a year or two
i mean at this point its pretty unimaginable for me to think tomorrow i am going to wake up with a super hard on
so to those who have recovered is that how it works
you just wake up one day after a set amount of time and everything goes magically back to the way things were
that’s doesn’t make any sense
peace
Improvements come slowly with time, if you are not taking any treatments.
so basically what your trying to say is its not a one day thing
and depending on each persons time it will come slowly
then i have this to add
i am on day 35 and if you ask me how much i have improved since stoping the drug than i will have to say i don’t know
since sometimes it feels like i am improving a little and others i can’t even keep my thing hard enough to jerk off
peace
Well, for those destined to go back to their old selves after quitting Fin, like Merck claims should occur, there is usually a surge of DHT within 2 weeks of quitting and everything is all good after that point. In our cases, the surge of DHT only lasts a week or so and is then followed by an endocrine system crash to hypogonadal levels of Testosterone, LH, and FSH, amongst other imbalances.
Recovering from that point will vary for each individual and their own body and endocrine system. Over time, the majority do find things improve little by little to a point they can function somewhat normally again, but nobody can give you an exact timeframe – it may take weeks, months or longer. The body is an amazing machine however, and seems to be able to adapt and compensate as time goes on.
If you get bloodwork showing hypogonadal Testosterone, LH and FSH etc., your choices are likely:
- waiting to see if body recovers Tesotsterone production naturally on its own, if it does, who knows when
- Trying to increase Testosterone production via natural supplements, diet and excercise changes
- Trying drug treatments such as Clomid, hCG, Tamoxifen to boost endogenous Testosterone production, however these also carry their own risks.
- Resorting to Testosterone Replacement Therapy as a last resort, which is often for life
Note this does not take into account any other hormone issues the drug may have caused (ie elevated estrogen, prolactin, TSH etc) which may also require their own treatment.
Most of this is outlined in FAQ at top of site, suggest you read through it if you haven’t already.
I should say I never had that surge/temporary improvement immediately after quitting as many have reported, so it does not apply to everyone. My experience has been a very long, slow decline while on propecia, and an even longer and slower recovery period.
I recall reading a few times how some posters felt if you had any notable improvement in the first year, that should be considered progress, and there is often significant recovery by the two year mark. I’ve been off 5 months shy of 2 years, and I feel this describes me as well. I’m confident I will be able to write an optimistic recovery story in the next year, even though I have not had any medical treatment thus far.
I’d say don’t get your hopes up for a strong recovery within a year if you haven’t had much success in 2 months. However I do believe many men will somewhat follow the two year loose guideline.
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it all makes sense now
i crashed, the surge did only last a week or so and then it went all hypo
so things get better from here right
well since this is day 35 I’'ll wait another 25 days before i do my bloodwork just to be on the sure side
option 1 - it will slowly improve right like no more crashes or nothing
option 2 - i can try that
option 3 - no way in hell am i trying any more of that shit
option 4 - refer to option 3
a couple of things still bother me
what’'s this horny goat weed i keep hearing about here
how does fasting help recovery and what sort of are we talking about
the most troubling thing for me is i had a fantastic sex drive before all of this and what i wanted to ask you what was yours like
i mean is there a pattern like for people who are more sexually awesome the body recovers faster or slower
i don’t know
well for me things were noticable on the drug
once i stopped things got worse but than started to get better by week 2
and than week 4 came in and boom
yeah that’s pretty much what i want to comfirm before i get the blood work done on whether this is a month thing or a year thing
still if it is 2 years long way to go
You can’t know this without getting bloodwork done, which you have yet to do. What makes you think you “crashed”?
They should but it might take awhile.
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=875
Ask “cdnuts”, he’s the resident fasting/raw diet guy around here. In my personal opinion this has nothing to do with diet, which remained unchanged for many while on/off the drug… and dietary changes do not cause penile fibrosis, loss of libido, loss of morning/nocturnal/spontaneous erections, impotence etc… androgen deprivation via Finasteride does.
However, eating healthier is certainly a good idea for overall health, regardless of Finasteride issues.
It’s gone.
Nobody knows, each individual is different.
- BLOODWORk 25 more days to go
well after i went off the drug things started to get a little bit better and than after 3 weeks the amount that i recovered backfired
2.yeah sure i have come to terms with it by now
3.so can this stuff help like a real treatment
4.makes sense what you say still not pointless in trying to fast
5.damn dude that sucks, where are you now at recovery
you seem to have it worse than me
at least i still get moringn erections as pathetic as they may be
6.yeah, i think in a year’s time for some reason i’ll definitely improve
besides i have those other things to try after i get my blood work done
peace
This is a correct statement. We are here because of the terrible effects of finasteride. A bad diet did not cause our problems, obviously. Nor did I ever suggest it did. What people have a hard time understanding is that CHANGING your diet from what you currently consume can do nothing short of kick start any healing your are going to have into hyperdrive. It’s about being as healthly as you can possibly be, creating the conditions for perfect health, so that your body has at it’s disposal the means to bring itself back online. When you do the things that cause health, health will follow. What people think is a healthy diet, while by the food pyramid standards, may be, really is not. People just don’t get how deep, what you eat, effects your life in every possible way down to the molecular level. If you want to “recover” you need to make it as easy as you can for your body to do so.
i see now what you met my the diet thing cdnuts but what does fasting have anything to do with it
Please google, water fasting. You will have all you need to read up on. Or, better yet, you can go to this site healthpromoting.com/ and read the articles written by the Doctors there. If you get the diet thing, you’ll get why fasting is an intregal part of a quicker recovery.
Im a beliver cdnuts.
The biggest factor for how i am feeling is definetly very closely related to what i put in me. The less processed foods i eat the better i feel. For me i realised by coinsidence since i had some allergic reactions to wheat wich forced me to to change my eating habbits.
It wasent as obvious getting better on a good diet as its obvious how much worse i get when i eat wrong. Night and day experience for me.
Its not that strange really. The worse health you have the more important you lifestyle will be. When you have good health you can treat your body like crap and get away with it. We cant!
With a good diet im okay. on a bad diet i suffer big time.
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I agree completely with this statement. Looking back on my use of propecia. It was slow progression of side effects. Now I can specifically look back and recall things that I was feeling in the beginning that I should have related to the drug, but didn’t. The point is, if we want to recover naturally it will most likely take a couple of years or so.