Finasteride reduces prostatic vascularity rapidly within 2 weeks

Another study with photos:

Randomized, placebo-controlled trial showing that finasteride reduces prostatic vascularity rapidly within 2 weeks

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OBJECTIVE
To measure expression of vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) and microvessel density (MVD) in the prostates of men after transurethral resection of the prostate (TURP) following 2 weeks of treatment with finasteride.

PATIENTS AND METHODS
Sixty-four men scheduled to undergo TURP were randomized to receive 5 mg of finasteride or placebo daily for 2 weeks before surgery. Sections of prostatic urothelium were stained for VEGF expression and for CD31 to assess MVD. Ten consecutive, non-overlapping high-power fields were analysed in a blinded fashion.

RESULTS
In all, 31 men received finasteride and 33 placebo; the groups were similar in patient age, resected prostate weight, preoperative catheterization, prostate-specific antigen level, aspirin use, spinal anaesthesia and postoperative diagnosis of prostate cancer. The mean (95% confidence interval) MVD was significantly lower in the finasteride group (60, 55–65) than in the placebo group (71, 64–78; P < 0.01). Similarly, the mean expression of VEGF was significantly lower in the finasteride group (47, 43–52 vs 61, 54–67; P < 0.001)

CONCLUSION
Finasteride inhibits angiogenic growth factors leading to reduced vascularity, and this is the basis of its action in reducing haematuria of prostatic origin. The present study shows that finasteride influences the prostatic microvasculature after only 2 weeks exposure.

Mew, what does “inhibits angiogenic growth factors…” mean, which then leads to reduced vascularity ??

Does this mean it reduces androgens in the prostate, and that therefore maybe replacement (HRT) may then help re-establish vascularization?

Also, why do you think I preach against cholesterol, animal fats, and for a healthy vegetarian diet?
Do you want these vessels to get blocked up, while experiencing this reduced flow??

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiogenesis

It means Finasteride inhibits the growth of new blood vessels from existing ones, likely due to decreased androgens (DHT) and decreased VEGF production:

propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1069
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=587

Based on the below, I would assume so.
endo.endojournals.org/cgi/conten … /139/2/451

But it doesn’t mean it kills or dmages anything permanently does it?? Its more like it decreases blood flow through, no??

What I’m getting at is that it doesn’t necessarily kill cells and tissue which could hence then cause permanent damage, it just blocks androgens which in turn then probably blocks stimulation, and vascularization and blood flow around prostate, which then causes it to shrink??

So we’re not necessarily screwed here then, are we??

And Mew, I’m just looking for a conversational type, and opinion response from you, not some highly scientific highly objective response with ten links to other studies…
I’m trying to have just a normal conversation and discussion here. Whats your opinion??

Dude, you were the guy who NEVER smoked pot in highschool, no, because you were just SO afraid of it “damaging you”, because its drugs! no??

This is my last post on this topic, this is the Finasteride Studies section, not discussion section… we can move the discussion elsewhere if you wish. I prefer highly scientific discussion over “what ifs”, I prefer to work with what is KNOWN mechanisms of action of this drug. If you do not care to base things off scientific fact, we likely won’t have much to talk about.

Boston, I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. From what you can read here:

propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=494
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=922
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … t=bleeding

… it certainly seems like Finasteride DOES REDUCE BLOODFLOW within both the prostate and seminal vesicles, and likely to the genitalia as a result. This is just my opinion, but I am basing it off what I read.

Also, please reread the last sentence of the first post in this thread: propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=201

“We conclude that finasteride causes prostate involution through a combination of atrophy and cell death.”

Does that sound good? Obviously not… my guess is these changes are definitely occuring while on the drug and for some time after, but perhaps as androgen levels come back online, the tissue changes induced by Finasteride may hopefully reverse – but after doing this to our prostate, who knows to what level it can or will recover, it also probably depends how long one was taking the drug, obviously the shorter the amount of time the more likely to recover from such tissue changes.

Also, I’ve already given you 2 links to studies, one here: propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=201 , showing androgens reversed prostate involution in the rat (1 after Finasteride use, the 2nd after castration).

If that’s not good enough for you, sorry – go believe whatever you want.

One last thing, on the bright side:

Remember there are many men out there that have been taking this drug for years without issue, even though Finasteride is shrinking their prostate. And upon quitting the drug, they return to their old selves within a few weeks/months, able to have erections without issue, are horny etc. In other words, even though their prostates were affected, it did not make any difference when they quit because they still returned to normal.

Thats cool. :unamused: