Im sorry to hear that, 7 years and you didnt have any improvement?
Do you have your blood works online??
I want to believe this so i can approach a doctor about it, i dont think justquit has any reason to lie. We are all in need of true help, perhaps his protocol worked for him but it may not work for everyone else. JustQuit, just have the patient X you are referring to post. It can be as sample as “i am using justquits protocol, and i think it is working”, really anything. Posting on behalf of patient X, does nothing but make it seem like you are making this up.
nope,no improvement in seven years,still no feeling in my dick,i had lots of bloodwork done in the year following my crash but everything is within range according to the endocronologists etc,same old story as everyone else,hope this lads protocol is the one,fingers crossed,watching and waiting…
Jqd took 8 mg one day. 8!! Madness. And no bloodtests.
Finbasteride, I did have blood tests and they came back perfect, please stop misrepresenting me and others here.
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Mote horseshit jqd. ypur bullshit is highlighted above from 11/11/14 . You were taking 8+ mg of arimidex about 10 days ago according to your post above. I m not lying just demonstrating to other posters the inconsistencies and lies in your post. All who don t believe me check for yourself. He mentions no bloodwork inbetween 11/11/14 and now.
DON T ACCUSE ME OF LYING. IT S ALL POSTED.
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I have sustanon here, I tried it with minimal results, only thing that ever worked was propionate, I also suggest you start out with arimidex and propionate before moving to aromasin. The reason is Aromasin is not easy to control your estrogen like arimidex where you can use it as needed, just to learn your body.
So far it has taken ridiculous doses of AI’s to deal with estrogen from any other form of test but propionate, sustanon has prop in it but 3 other forms of long acting test so it is even worse. I am sorry Mark, that is why this condition has been so difficult to treat. It is the right balance of test and estrogen and the test has to be low and short acting and low estrogenic like propionate. In time you will be able to use another form of test I feel as I was on enanthate after a while till I reset myself with DHT.
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Ok I have some TRT gel should that work better than Sustanon ?
Btw I’ve been taking Aromasin 25mg for the last 2 days.
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I don’t know, I read the gel is more estrogenic than the shot, so that may create more problems, do you have Arimidex Mark? Try Arimidex a few times a day first before you switch to Aromasin. Aromasin is a steroid, and so far I have 3 people responding to Arimidex with this theory and concept, no one yet with Aromasin. I am starting to have concerns because Aromasin is a steroid and our systems may recognize it as DHT and it may be suppressive to our condition vs Arimidex (again just a thought but I have a duty to share them with you guys).
I know this is contradictory, but not of the theory, Arimidex makes it easier to control estrogen per hour till you figure out where you are at, you can try Aromasin in the future. The key is to first find the right balance of estrogen and testosterone and DHT, if Aromasin has ANY remote possibility of suppression wouldn’t you agree it is best to start with Arimidex?
No doctor told me this, it is my own fear, I have switched back to Arimidex only to find my recovery speeding up, the most important aspect is the form of testosterone, and the concept of what is going on. It doesn’t matter what form of anti estrogen you use if you keep your test levels controllable and low enough. You can use Aromasin, but I have only so far been able to see results in guys using Arimidex.
Have you noticed anything on Aromasin so far? I suggest you try Arimidex every hour or 2 till your estrogen sensations go away, you can try the gel, it is a 24 hour release, but it is very estrogenic, so I don’t know. If you understand what I am talking about, you should be able to figure out how to get it to work at first. Once you stabilize yourself you can change what you are using later, do you follow me?
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He wants you to take arimidex every HOUR!!! 8+mg per day!!
This is just 10 days ago. Check for yourselves. He has not had a blood test since then. I not lying just quoting him. Its all printed.
Like someone telling you to take 8 pills of propecia a day. Its that loopy. I know lads are desperate but just check this lunatics post history.
JQD IS LYING TO YOU ALL. DISPICABLE LIES!!!
GO ESTROGEN!
8mg a day of Arimidex is a dangerously high dose. However, estrogen dominance is a major cause of PFS.
You sound a bit looney yourself.
I sound looney?? Well go swallow 8 mg of arimidex then son. See how you get on.
Listen guys, I’m working with 2 guys now, patient X1 and patient X2, both very active members of this forum, I won’t have the time to work with them and post here as much. Also Finbasteride is spreading lies and he is just bad for this forum. I am not going to be responding to his posts again, I have given him many chances and he gets drugged Up on xanax and alcohol and posts all this shit. Why Mew hasn’t banned him I have no idea. My goal is by working with these 2 guys who also wil be working with dr Jacobs so that there is a doctor involved, I may be able to advance this cause and research. The fact is I found a way how to reverse and manage this condition and potentially it could be an eventual cure, we don’t know.
When these guys are fully reversed and comfortable they will post. I may post from time to time and respond to my private messages, but coming on here and resding finbasteride’s insulting drunken drugged up rants is a waste of my time and not a positive thing for me. Just know that this is being worked on and I am going to teach them everything I know and they can come and post after it works out. So far patient X1 is doing better with the principals than since he got pfs just using tribulus and arimidex, it’s hardly enough, he will do great on propionate when it arrives.
Try to ignore any posts from finbasteride, they are not worth responding to, from this point on I’ll be ignoring him as he is a liar and vicious. Worst is he is dangerous to people here by saying things like he tried my protocol which we all know is a lie.
Stay strong friends, help is on the way! Once this protocol has been proven and more see it and join in on it, perhaps it will lead to better protocols and better understandings of this condition. One thing is for sure, one way or another you will know as both these guys are posters here.
My endo who put me on a 2 year clomid restart in an attempt to cure my symptoms of PFS.
Yes we started at 1.5 mg of arimdex per day. We started the armidex at that dose approx 6 months into my clomid restart because at that time my estrogen was sky high. I felt like the armidrx at 1.5 mg per day was lowering my estrogen to much and was coming to this conclusion based on how I felt and not with blood work.
Like I said we moved it to 1 mg per day and after a while of taking it at 1mg per day we did blood work which showed my estrogen was perfect in range right where it should be.
But if you are listening to JQD he is saying these dosages are to low.
I agree that it’s possible that we are in a situation here where we are just extra sensitive to estrogen because of are altered endocrine system to the extent that blood work can’t even track or gadge it. It’s reasonable. But at the same time 8 armidex in one day does sound crazy. I mean it’s some strong stuff.
Justquitdut we need these other guys to post.
I will respect their wishes, if you want to know that I'm telling the truth, get Mew involved and I'll tell him who they are and he can confirm to you there are 2 posters here working with me, but he will keep their names private. Niether of them want anyone to know they are doing this till they are reversed and feel comfortable about posting.
I have no reason to lie, but also have no problem telling Mew who they are so he can confirm it. This is why I am taking a step back from here. I'm working on this treatment and working with these 2 guys, I don't see what the benefit is to coming on here and getting trashed and then having my integrity questioned. If you don't believe me, fine, just wait till they post, within a couple months they should be posting.
As I said, Mew can easily verify this by allowing me to tell him and then letting you guys know I'm telling the truth, that's the best I can offer right now. Otherwise just wait till they post, I will try to post updates as I know there are a lot of guys here who like my posts and follow me. There are only a few bad apples and many many guys in support of me.
So don't worry, we are working on this, I think within the next 1 to 2 months things will be very different.I am lying yet I post his own quotes as evidence. Poor guy is riddled with pfs he is a fucking hopeless liar just look at his degenerate posts…this guy has serious mental illness. just 2 weeks ago he was pming me a TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROTOCOL. IT didn t work. He has no evidence. There will be no other “cured” guys coming forward. If there are I will kiss my own arse.
JQD IS MENTALLY ILL. A MADMAN. FEEL SORRY FOR HIM BUT DON’T TAKE HIS PATHETIC ADVICE. HE IS A CRETIN.
Hey there, I am so excited for you! Contact me privately and I will give you my contact info so I can help you through this by phone or text. It is important you do not inject too much, keep it at 10mg a day for a couple weeks and use arimidex when you feel the estrogen dominance, don't allow it to dominate you. Panic, anxiety, trouble taking deep breaths, muscle twitches, sadness, depression, water retention, all symptoms of it. It is the principals that you seem to be learning that are even more important than the protocol. If you inject too high a dose of propionate you will not be able to control the estrogen.
I am on 30mg a day and it is difficult sometimes to control the estrogen, but I do, so I advise you to keep it low till your system recovers more. In time your dht will build up and you will need less arimidex hopefully. I have to take 1-6mg a day, 1mg every time I feel estrogen coming on, yes it is a lot, but estrogen is far more dangerous than arimidex (which is safe and was tested with up to 10mg a day in research and 60mg doses were safe).
The alternative is for me to live with pfs and give up my life and suffer horrible estrogen dominance, estrogen is very dangerous. We are not normal and the arimidex seems to be relative to the estrogen, I don't get joint side effects when I need that much arimidex, so when your estrogen gets that high it is what it is. I will try other forms of anti estrogens in the future, but this has been the best. I also recommend you to take a baby aspirin a day.
If it comes in vials then take it out of the vial with a syringe and put it into an empty sterile bottle, buy one online if you don't have one. Do not inject more than 10mg a day till you see how you react and give your body a couple weeks. If you want my guidance pm me, you will need to figure out your doses and arimidex will only work when taken as needed for this condition. There is no set amount you take every day, simply doesn't work that way for us.
Put in the subject title of your pm "I'm
Using your protocol."
arimidex 1.5mg/day ?
Seems a very high dose. Who did give you that treatment? Did you have blood test made before taking arimidex?
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My endo who put me on a 2 year clomid restart in an attempt to cure my symptoms of PFS.
Yes we started at 1.5 mg of arimdex per day. We started the armidex at that dose approx 6 months into my clomid restart because at that time my estrogen was sky high. I felt like the armidrx at 1.5 mg per day was lowering my estrogen to much and was coming to this conclusion based on how I felt and not with blood work.
Like I said we moved it to 1 mg per day and after a while of taking it at 1mg per day we did blood work which showed my estrogen was perfect in range right where it should be.
But if you are listening to JQD he is saying these dosages are to low.
I agree that it’s possible that we are in a situation here where we are just extra sensitive to estrogen because of are altered endocrine system to the extent that blood work can’t even track or gadge it. It’s reasonable. But at the same time 8 armidex in one day does sound crazy. I mean it’s some strong stuff.
Justquitdut we need these other guys to post.
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When you are injecting testosterone with pfs it’s another ball game, natural is one thing, I’m speaking of from test injections, if you ever inject test you will understand what I mean.
That post came out wrong it’s hard with the no 3 quote rule in here anyway, injecting external testosterone changes the equation, 1mg is a joke with test injections and pfs, you will
Understand if you ever do, it’s been the same with others I have spoken to.
Omg. Don t listen to jqd. He is mentally ill.
Please for all those considering jqd protocol look at his post history. It is totally inconsistent and NOT A SINGLE person confirms his story depite his claims of helping many others. If you want medical help seek a doctor not some imbecile mentallly ill moron on a forum. His protocol is as changeable as the wind.
Dude, you’re an idiot. I’ve taken AI’s in reasonable amounts and experienced higher libido, boners and morning wood. On it right now, actually. The Test Propionate adds to the T pool available to make DHT. JQD’s protocol is very straight-forward and simple.
Please go fuck off to your Doctors and “Medical Help”. Nobody wants your advice on this thread.